Eternabonding a New TT?

JIMNLIN wrote:
it can void the roof warranty as one RV.net member found out.

No reading disabilities here fella... You have stated this time and time again. You imply that the use of Eternabond voided a warranty "as one rv.net member found out", but the reality is that the warranty was NOT voided and you have ZERO factual basis to support your claim.

You are posting FALSE INFORMATION and I am trying to set the record straight. You either have proof that a warranty was voided or you don't. Time and time again I have pointed out that YOU DON'T have proof. Even in the posts that you provide to prove your point they specifically state that they DO NOT void the warranty. The other post discusses problems with improperly installed Eternabond. I don't think any advocating installing it incorrectly, otherwise I would agree with you...

Typical internet bully, you cannot justify your position so you resort to name calling. That's just sad...

If you're purchasing "New" as you say, then you want to be cognizant of warranty issues. Don't do something that will void the warranty. Also, don't fail to make warranty claim at the slightest hint of a problem. De-lamination can result from surprisingly small amount of water intrusion.
Once warranty expires, at first signs of a leak, do a thorough and complete job of removing old caulk and replacing with Dicor, Eternabond, or whatever tickles your fancy.

JIMNLIN you mention other web sites that you have seen. I presume that they are RV related. I'm not a rapid response team member or an escalation team or service team member but, could you PM me with a list of those other web sites. Just so I can bring this to the attention of other readers and more adequately respond to my situation. I may have missed some in my campaign.

Sorry...just about missed your question.
I'll be glad to give you what I have.

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John Canfield

Eternabond and Winnebago warranty considerations


My friend at Winnebago wanted me to pass along some info about using Eternabond on your Winnebago Industries product. The use of it will not void any warranty, but any problem or issue that arises because of or due to Eternabond will not be covered by warranty. Their engineering staff hasn't evaluated it and therefore make no recommendation for or against it. This is my paraphrase and do not consider it an official Winnie statement - only their communications department can talk with that kind of confidence :P

There is a service tip document you can download which gives some general instructions about sealants and exterior care. Have a look.

Edit: I'm going to make this a sticky.

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grhodes50
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Eternabond; The other side of the coin.

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After reading how fellow FRF members have added Eternabond Tape to the roof of their units, I was ready to do the same (and I still may).
However, I was talking to a Prime Time service tech the other day and I was telling him of my plans. He advised against it. He then mentioned a few reasons why.

First, Prime Time belives the Dicor sealant is the best way to go, otherwise they would place Eternabond on their trailers to begin with.

Second, the tape doesn't always adhere to the Dicor very well. This could possibly (not probable but possible) cause a leak under the tape that would be hard or impossible to detect, until it's too late.

Third, If you need to replace a vent or something else on the roof, the tape is very hard to remove safely. You have to be very careful not to damage the rubber roof.

He said Prime Time believes regular cleaning, inspection and maintenance of of your roof twice a year and reapplying Dicor when and where needed is the best way to prevent leaks.

You may or may not agree with what he told me. I'm still not too sure myself, but I thought I would pass this info on to those who may be interested.

RV lower resale value is another issue with using Eternabond and other non OEM or other products not recommended by a trailer/roofing material manufacture. Lots of opinions pro and con on that subject also.

ts not a matter of me simply not reading because I don't like it. I feel that you are spreading untruthful information and trying to scare people unnecessarily. You have ZERO proof that a warranty was ever denied because of Eternabond use.

You have a reading disability or a comprehension problem...or probably both. No where have I said that someones roof warranty was denied.
Let me repost what I said

**Better ask your new trailer mfg and dealer about warranty issues before installing Eternabond up there...it can void the roof warranty as one RV.net member found out.
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A while back, I opened a thread asking whether eterna-bonding the roof seams on an almost-new TT as a preventative measure was a good idea ...the virtually unanimous opinion was 'yes'....


Well, took the TT to the selling dealer today for some minor work...rep. sees the tape job, asks 'why on earth did you DO that'?, and tells me that: a.) it's not necessary b.) it'll trap water if any water ever gets beneath the tape, and c.) any claim under the roof warranty may get kicked on grounds that the roof has been 'modified'....**

Now where do you read that I said a roof warranty was denied. In fact it was the trailer dealer rep who told trailernovice about the roof warranty may get kicked.

JIMNLIN wrote:
If you don't like my posting this then simply don't read it.

I post this every time a newby wants to use Eternabond on his brand new trailer as a warning and I will continue to re post it. This isn't the only website I've seen such a warning from the dealer/mfg on the subject.
Your free to make claims to the contrary however I nor trailernovice said a warranty was kicked as you call it in his case.

The moisture the dealer was referring to had nothing to do with moisture in a wall but rather moisture under the tape which is a known issue especially when the tape wasn't applied correctly.

Its not a matter of me simply not reading because I don't like it. I feel that you are spreading untruthful information and trying to scare people unnecessarily. You have ZERO proof that a warranty was ever denied because of Eternabond use.

You do say one thing that I believe to be correct though, if Eternabond tape is improperly applied it won't be useful. You could say the same about your caulk though... if it is not properly applied it won't work either.

For that matter, aluminum siding or fiberglass walls won't work properly if they aren't applied correctly... would you suggest not using aluminum siding or fiberglass siding because it won't work properly if not applied correctly?

Give facts to support your claim. Otherwise it certainly appears as though you are a fear monger, spreading misinformation.

OP, keep in mind you're about 50X more likely to read about a problem on the internet than someone without a problem. Point being reading these internet forums can make you think EVERY RV every made will leak and rot.

Over the last 10+ years I've owned 4 RVs and have never had a leak. And, if/when you do have a leak I'd go out on a limb and say 90% or more of the horror stories you read about are from people not paying attention and not looking around their RVs regularly. An RV is just like a house... little problems turn in to big problems if not taken care of. IMO, there is no reason to tape every seam on the trailer. Just pay attention and be aware and you'll be miles ahead of 99% of people.

...Or you could buy a molded-fiberglass TT like Scamp or Casita. Voila, no seams to leak. Life is easier when you only have to watch the windows and vents and plumbing for leaks.

I always Eternabond a new trailer as soon as we pick it up and the roof is still clean. You have to be aware of possible warranty and recall complications though. Dealer may refuse repairs or you will be on the hook to have it removed. They cannot deny a claim unless they can prove the Eternabond was part of the cause.

My tt had a recall for missing screws along the front cap roof seem. I had already used Eternabond tape on it so unless I removed it the dealer couldn't make any repairs. I left it alone.

spoon059 wrote:

goducks10 wrote:

bmet2000 wrote:
That's what I thought on my last camper, so I got the dealer to seal all the seams with eternabond when it was a year old. 2 years later when it started delaminating, dealer said oh well, Jayco won't cover that since you didn't remove your gutter and awning to look for leaks every year. Thanks dealer

If Jayco requires me to remove my gutters and awning every year then I'll never look at a Jayco again. That just seems ridiculous.
I suppose Jayco could then say you didn't caulk it properly after removing the gutters and awning.

My thoughts as well... I have read my 2015 Jayco owners manual and there is NOTHING about taking off the gutters or awning. Please show me where in your manual it states that so that I can specifically review mine.

I think it was more the dealer not wanting to admit to anything they could have done. I never heard anything directly from Jayco, but rather what the dealer told me.
I still have the vin number and have thought of getting the real story from Jayco.

If you check 100 TT after 5 years, I bet you will find almost all had leaked. I would call that close to 100% failure rate. That grey tape is used because it's easy and quick. Besides it should last as long as the payments if they do it right. Most times, they miss.

Doing it right is slow, messy and the sealant is expensive. Besides what manufacturer would want a trailer to last.