F350 payload dispute

The reality check on all of this is what hotshot haulers do legally with pickup trucks. They are subject to stopping at weight stations, complying with the bridge weight laws and vehicle registrations such as the correct tonnage purchased for the load. They haul loads more that most all RV's would ever dream of, and do it legally. Or they are parked!

As forum member Jimnlin who does this says, the hotshotters have a good laugh about the RV weight police.

Chris

Please read the previous posts before responding. GVWR has been covered more than once in this thread from multiple angles.

Simply install bigger rear tires and disregard the rest of the vehicle if you are going to ignore the GVWR like some have suggested. Add a couple of leaves to the rear springs while you are at it. Ford has no idea what "Should never exceed" really means. It is "just a guideline".

I was loaded at 12,500 lbs with my 9800 lb GVWR stickered truck the last long trip into BC. I did pass some police heading out past Hope toward Sunshine Valley, but none paid any attention to me. Axles, rims and tires were all under actual ratings but over the door jam sticker. Perhaps lack of sway, sag or wag kept them from looking closer.

It seems that the legalities depend on the jurisdiction. In BC you cannot be over your GAWR or GVWR. See below link from the government website, having said that I don't hear of many people actually being checked but I have heard stories of it happening. For my personal situation I don't really have a backup plan for someone to come get my camper so I stay under all ratings.

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/transportation/driving-and-cycling/traveller-information/seasonal/recreation-trailers

mkirsch wrote:

Since private use trucks are not subject to commercial DOT law, and will never be weighed, in effect, there is no limit.
The only way you can be pulled over for being overloaded in a private use truck is if you are so grossly overloaded that you cannot keep control of the vehicle.

Another one who stayed at a Holiday Inn or listened to the fat guy around a campfire.
Not at all true. The above doesn't even make any sense. Weight laws apply to all vehicles on the road. Doesn't matter if private or commercial.
Does anyone think their E rated pickup tires will support 20,000 lbs on a single axle? Seriously? Do you think your pickup will haul 40,000 lbs? 20,000 is generally max axle weight limit.
Does anyone think their tandem axle 5er weighs anywhere close to 34,000 lbs? 34,000 lbs is generally the max tandem axle weight limit.
For a pickup pulling a 5er do you really think your total weight is anywhere near 74,000 lbs?
If anyone thinks they are then they really aren't too sharp on comprehending weight numbers. Think about it. I know all those big numbers confuse some people. Your ton pickup is going to weight around 8000 lbs. Your big 5er is going to weigh 15,000 lbs, maybe, most likely less. 23,000 lbs total, maybe. You're no where even close to the max axle weight limits.

mkirsch wrote:
It's very simple: Your legal load limit is whatever you paid for when registering your truck in many states.

As long as you do not exceed the federal/state bridge weight laws. One would be hard pressed to exceed them with a pickup truck.

There is a difference between the bridge weight laws and the tonnage in states that enforce/collect weight fees.

I my home state they collect weight fees. They use tare weight times 1.5 and then round up to the next even K. Our 8800 GVWR 2001.5 was licensed to 12K. Our 2015 is licensed to the same 12K, however for not that much a year I can raise that to 14K if I want to.

So getting a ticket in Washington or any other state, I would have to be over the bridge weight limits or the tonnage I am paying for.

http://www.trucking.org/ATA%20Docs/What%20We%20Do/Trucking%20Issues/Documents/Highway%20Infrastructure%20and%20Funding/Report%20to%20Congress%20on%20the%20Compilation%20of%20Size%20and%20Weight%20Laws.pdf

Since private use trucks are not subject to commercial DOT law, and will never be weighed, in effect, there is no limit.

LOL...good one....however I wouldn't look a "REAL" size and weight officer in the face and tell him a private use truck has no weight limits.
Any vehicle on the road come under some type of weight limits.
Granted its rare a truck pulling a rv would ever be stopped just to be weighed for a overload condition unless per my area troop commander, it looks severally overloaded......wondering all over the road and creating a safety hazard to other drivers on the road.... then the S10 truck pulling a 40' Grand Teton can be stopped and scaled for exceeding the vehicles axle/tire limits. ( his description not mine).

Looks like the OP thread about "can a one ton F350 SRW truck pull my 42' 18000 lb trailer has taken another turn in the same old same old weight opinions including mine,..... which is contact his state size and weight folks for their input on any trucks actual weight limits. That way it separates rv website myth and eliminates all the differing/wild opinions.

MACHZER wrote:


Stay out of Manitoba, they portable scale the rv,s here. If your over your 11,500 and that's an automatic ticket, really well over you unhook the trailer right there

In all the years I have been living right next door to Manitoba and years driving and years on the forums this is the very first time I have ever heard this. I would need to see some firsthand evidence before I believed that. Unless you are running with commercial placards or decals they don't care about you. Unless you are obviously displaying risky or unsafe behaviour.

I think wadcutter is my new favourite poster