Ike Gauntlet 2017 3500s DRW 22,800# load

Hannibal wrote:

Over 90% of skilled trade union members voted R this time around including me. I've been registered R for years. I try to buy union made whenever I can including my Prius. My first wife is Mexican. I have nothing against Mexican people. I've been told here on rv dot net that the Chrysler shops in Mexico are union.

It is not about how the members voted. It is about where the money from the union dues went, and who they tried to get elected. It is overwhelmingly one side. Maybe the other members and you can demand that your unions give money to both sides, but until they change this trend I would prefer not to buy a product made by UAW.

I don't care if the if Mexico is unionized. It is not about being a union although I refuse to join one because of past experiences. It is about who that union pays to get elected and Mexican Union dues do not go to any of my elected officials.

2016 UAW Contributions

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spud1957 wrote:
Guess since this can of worms has been open, lets get accurate stats,

To say Toyota is more American than Ford or GM is incorrect. There are a couple Toyota models in the top 10 but GM is the clear winner in that regard.

Take a look. You'll be surprised at the results.

http://kogodbusiness.com/reports/auto-index/

Funny when I said the same thing about Toyota I got "quoted" and told I was a being a fanboy. People posting links showing Toyota as having the highest American content. Fast forward and it is just a few models now. LOL

Don

Why would we not buy the best built item without regard to where it was manufacturer? That puts pressure on US companies to build a better product. Blindly buying an American made product puts no pressure on the company to build the best product.

Retired Union Carpenter, voted Conservative my whole life. I have bought US Made more than most.

ShinerBock wrote:

4x4ord wrote:
I am willing to buy made in Canada or made in USA

If the money is going to a union which in turn will use it to get some libtard elected then I say Hecho en Mexico. Got a lot of family from Mexico since my uncle was a missionary and married a Mexican woman. I also have family that migrated there from Germany in the late 19th century. What people don't understand is that Mexico is just as much of a cultural melting pot as the US is, and they only believe Mexicans are brown. This is completely false. There are German-Mexicans, Irish-Mexicans, French-Mexicans, Polish-Mexicans, and so on.

Over 90% of skilled trade union members voted R this time around including me. I've been registered R for years. I try to buy union made whenever I can including my Prius. My first wife is Mexican. I have nothing against Mexican people. I've been told here on rv dot net that the Chrysler shops in Mexico are union.

hellfirehydra wrote:

spud1957 wrote:
Guess since this can of worms has been open, lets get accurate stats,

To say Toyota is more American than Ford or GM is incorrect. There are a couple Toyota models in the top 10 but GM is the clear winner in that regard.

Take a look. You'll be surprised at the results.

http://kogodbusiness.com/reports/auto-index/

This is a really neat website. Thank you!

Was definitely surprised on more than a couple!

Surprised the GM 2500's aren't in the list. Their 1500's were a lot less "American" than I would have thought.

That's an interesting website. I noticed they didn't list Ford's Super Duty. Maybe they missed it or maybe somehow they rolled them under the Ford F-150 numbers like how Ford counts sales under the F Series brand. That would match how they listed Chevy and GMC trucks under Silverado and Sierra. However, they did break out Ram's 1500 vs. 2500. No mention of the 3500. Thanks for sharing.

lawnspecialties wrote:
Looking at the signatures of almost every post in this thread, two things come to mind:
1. Nobody commenting here (from what I can tell) owns one of these 2017 trucks.
2. Nobody commenting here builds one of these 2017 trucks.

So why would anyone feel inadequate or superior in these results?

I was thinking the same thing. In addition:

1. Very few here live in the area where they will be towing I70 on a regular basis (I'd actually guess that most have never towed it).

2. Even the slowest tested would outrun the truck owned by those making a big deal a the delta of times.

Looking at the signatures of almost every post in this thread, two things come to mind:
1. Nobody commenting here (from what I can tell) owns one of these 2017 trucks.
2. Nobody commenting here builds one of these 2017 trucks.

So why would anyone feel inadequate or superior in these results?

After watching the video a couple times I have not been able to determine how many times the ford required a brake application on the down hill. It was 2 or more.

The Ram required 3.

The Chevy one.

They did mention they were not letting the electronics handle the braking.

But had they set the cruise control on at 50 coming out of the tunnel with the Chevy I am almost sure they would never have had to apply brakes.

Without cruise control turned on with the Chevy you have to apply brakes once to get the grade braking to activate.

They glossed over the point rating by giving all three trucks 25 points for braking. Where did that come from?

Braking is probably more important than time to climb the hill when towing heavy.

FishOnOne wrote:

Me Again wrote:
NO auto today has all is parts made in the US. Get over it. The Power Stroke diesel is built/assembled in Mexico is an example.

I remember being concerned when I purchased my first HONDA that was assembled in the USA. It did have a Delco Battery!!!

Chris

We get it... Just like your cummins engine block is casted in Mexico.

Having said that it's very important to purchase from an American company and that I can say I'm very proud of.

Well, when a company (and it doesn't matter where they are located) hoses me like I got hosed on my 6.0L resale, let's just say I'm going to look at my options moving forward rather than blindly continue to give my hard earned money to that company.