Newer diesel with least problems

Per my experience repairing a vehicle is chain reaction.
You take it for 1 thing to be replaced, mechanics will kink the hoses, loosen clamps and forgets to torque some bolts.
The vehicle leaves the shop after repair running well, but some time later something else gives....
I had my 7.3l Ford at dealer only once for wire harness recall. '
They drop filter clamp into my turbo....

mkirsch wrote:

srschang wrote:
Having worked in a Cummins plant for 36 years, the Monday/Friday thing is a wives tale. The failsafes and process controls work just as well Monday and Friday as they do every other day of the week. The operators have very little influence on quality any more.

The whole "built on a Friday before a long weekend" is more of a figure of speech at this point than anything.

That said, if the QC and failsafes are so great, then how do any bad ones get through?

Something out of process happens, IE a part has to be replaced because it was found to be faulty in a downstream test process. Usually repaired in an offline repair area without failsafes, rely on the repair person. The main reason for a "bad one" is a defective part from a supplier. The current Ram waterpump recall is a good example.

Some people are really hard on engines. One of my brothers had a remarkable destruction history. I can’t say I’d judge an engine based on how it performed for him.

Funny that Navistar 6.0s are still getting slammed on a “newer” engine thread when they haven’t been in a Ford in over 10 years. Reality is most people don’t need diesels, and they don’t respond well to those drivers who are using them for purposes they weren’t designed for. Is that the diesels fault? I don’t think so.

Similar to loading every compartment of your TC including slides with as much weight as you can and wonder why it doesn’t hold together.

mkirsch wrote:


Thanks for helping to make my point. Did you go out there and start a thread crowing about your trouble-free 6.0? I'm going to go out on a very short, very stout limb here and say no, you didn't.

However, you can go into the archives on most any site that discusses Ford trucks and find plenty of threads started by people having problems with their 6.0's. If you go by the threads, you'd think that ALL 6.0's are junk.

(I'm sure someone will quote this and say, "They are." Don't disappoint me fellas.)

An engine who from drawing boards have head bolts that can't keep the heads on engine block is a junk.
Still a beast to drive as I was racing BMW with my dually.
Not saying that people who bought the 6l truck for grocery getter will have a problem with head bolts, but is not how some of those trucks work.
Why oil coolers clog on very short mileage? There is something in those engines that makes chemical reaction and no engineer come with solution to it.
Still looks like Ford finally scored good with 6.7l diesel even the engine is so packed under the hood that DIY service is in question. Liquid cooled intercooler? I would like to hear how they perform at 1/2 million miles mark?

srschang wrote:
Having worked in a Cummins plant for 36 years, the Monday/Friday thing is a wives tale. The failsafes and process controls work just as well Monday and Friday as they do every other day of the week. The operators have very little influence on quality any more.

The whole "built on a Friday before a long weekend" is more of a figure of speech at this point than anything.

That said, if the QC and failsafes are so great, then how do any bad ones get through?

BradW wrote:

mkirsch wrote:
All brands have *some* issues, because people aren't perfect, QC isn't perfect, and you are going to hear about them because people like to complain. You never hear from the ones who are not having any major issues unless you really twist their arms.

OK, here goes. We owned our 2006 F-350 DRW 4x4 6.0 PSD 6-SPD SC for 12 years and it never went to the shop; not a single time. So I would have to say that truck was perfect.

I cannot say that about the two 7.3's we owned before that because they both got the tow hook a couple of times.

Who would have thunk it?

BradW

Thanks for helping to make my point. Did you go out there and start a thread crowing about your trouble-free 6.0? I'm going to go out on a very short, very stout limb here and say no, you didn't.

However, you can go into the archives on most any site that discusses Ford trucks and find plenty of threads started by people having problems with their 6.0's. If you go by the threads, you'd think that ALL 6.0's are junk.

(I'm sure someone will quote this and say, "They are." Don't disappoint me fellas.)

Call it whatever you want.
I bought 2nd year of Mercedes assembly in Alabama. Not only new crew starting the plant, but also new digital technology.
Those SUV had one of the worse reliability records in automobile history.
Yet our truck drove in family for 13 year with total of $350 parts that failed.
Fellow owners seldom ended a year without spending over $2000 on their models.

Having worked in a Cummins plant for 36 years, the Monday/Friday thing is a wives tale. The failsafes and process controls work just as well Monday and Friday as they do every other day of the week. The operators have very little influence on quality any more.

Kayteg! wrote:
Beside engineering flaws, you will always find vehicles assembled on Friday before long weekend

"Alex, I'll take urban automobile myths for $600.00"

Beside engineering flaws, you will always find vehicles assembled on Friday before long weekend and those assembled on days when employees are well rested after vacations.
I had 6L Ford and it did perform well... till I hook up 18,000 lb trailer to it and took it on grades.
EGR bulletproofed, new oil cooler.
Had to be bolts letting the head lift under heavy pressure.