What determines payloads?

JIMNLIN wrote:

Can someone please explain to me how and when Ford 250s got a 10,000 GVWR and payloads that high? I've looked at numerous Fords and they were all 9900 GVWR with payloads less than 3,000 pounds (in the CC configuration).

When ??
In '05 Ford gave the 6.0 a 10k GVWR then continued with the 6.4 and 6.7 till 2012 when they mover to the 9900 GVWR or a 10k GVWR ...as was mentioned probably for licensing in those states/provinces that use a GVWR for that purpose.

How ?? Guessing but IMO Ford as Dodge and GM increased engines/transmissions/frames/stronger axles/etc which can make a higher GVWR.

Now just too muddy the GVWR game is a Ford F350 SRW which comes in several GVWRs and also a 10k GVWR on up to a 11500 GVWR for the same exact truck.
So goes the GVWR based payload game.

I recall that my 05 5.4 250 had the same (or very close) GVWR as my friend's 04 6.0 F350, which really surprised me. Before I found this forum, I had always wondered why.

Maybe it is falling down around him.
Frank.

ShinerBock wrote:

Flashman wrote:
Fairy dust

Man, you must have a very big chip on your shoulder. Do like the song says and just let it go so you can fill your head with factual information instead brand bias.

I suspect it is macro keystroke or auto correct that is stuck on his phone/computer. Flashman has repeatedly posted this in other threads. We all know there is no bias on this forum.

Flashman wrote:

JIMNLIN wrote:

Can someone please explain to me how and when Ford 250s got a 10,000 GVWR and payloads that high? I've looked at numerous Fords and they were all 9900 GVWR with payloads less than 3,000 pounds (in the CC configuration).

When ??
In '05 Ford gave the 6.0 a 10k GVWR then continued with the 6.4 and 6.7 till 2012 when they mover to the 9900 GVWR or a 10k GVWR ...as was mentioned probably for licensing in those states/provinces that use a GVWR for that purpose.

How ?? Guessing but IMO Ford as Dodge and GM increased engines/transmissions/frames/stronger axles/etc which can make a higher GVWR.

Now just too muddy the GVWR game is a Ford F350 SRW which comes in several GVWRs and also a 10k GVWR on up to a 11500 GVWR for the same exact truck.
So goes the GVWR based [COLOR=]marketing payload game.

Fairy dust

Man, you must have a very big chip on your shoulder. Do like the song says and just let it go so you can fill your head with factual information instead brand bias.

The reason for the different GVWR for the same truck is due to registration and tax purposes. In many states a truck with a higher GVWR than 10,000 lbs, the registration and tax fees more than doubles. So fleets, especially those that use their trucks capabilities more off road like logging, oilfield, and mining, have options to not have to pay so much if they don't need to.

JIMNLIN wrote:

Can someone please explain to me how and when Ford 250s got a 10,000 GVWR and payloads that high? I've looked at numerous Fords and they were all 9900 GVWR with payloads less than 3,000 pounds (in the CC configuration).

When ??
In '05 Ford gave the 6.0 a 10k GVWR then continued with the 6.4 and 6.7 till 2012 when they mover to the 9900 GVWR or a 10k GVWR ...as was mentioned probably for licensing in those states/provinces that use a GVWR for that purpose.

How ?? Guessing but IMO Ford as Dodge and GM increased engines/transmissions/frames/stronger axles/etc which can make a higher GVWR.

Now just too muddy the GVWR game is a Ford F350 SRW which comes in several GVWRs and also a 10k GVWR on up to a 11500 GVWR for the same exact truck.
So goes the GVWR based [COLOR=]marketing payload game.

Fairy dust

Can someone please explain to me how and when Ford 250s got a 10,000 GVWR and payloads that high? I've looked at numerous Fords and they were all 9900 GVWR with payloads less than 3,000 pounds (in the CC configuration).

When ??
In '05 Ford gave the 6.0 a 10k GVWR then continued with the 6.4 and 6.7 till 2012 when they mover to the 9900 GVWR or a 10k GVWR ...as was mentioned probably for licensing in those states/provinces that use a GVWR for that purpose.

How ?? Guessing but IMO Ford as Dodge and GM increased engines/transmissions/frames/stronger axles/etc which can make a higher GVWR.

Now just too muddy the GVWR game is a Ford F350 SRW which comes in several GVWRs and also a 10k GVWR on up to a 11500 GVWR for the same exact truck.
So goes the GVWR based payload game.

SouthpawHD wrote:
I guess I learnt someting today...Thanks.

X2

So did I.

I guess I learnt someting today...Thanks.

You have the choice when ordering, 9,900 or 10,000. In OBs example, the weights listed are for lowest trim models. In CC short bed, the low trim model would weigh 6,510 lbs as shipped, and door payload sticker would show 3,490, for a total of 10,000 GVWR.

Very few would buy the basic model, so dealer adds options that sell. Every lb of option uses available payload. A CC with popular options will show a payload of 2,600-2,800 lbs. This truck would weigh about 7,300 lbs.

Jerry

SouthpawHD wrote:

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Can someone please explain to me how and when Ford 250s got a 10,000 GVWR and payloads that high? I've looked at numerous Fords and they were all 9900 GVWR with payloads less than 3,000 pounds (in the CC configuration).

Up here, if you use the Build and Price web app, you can choose 9900 or 10000 for your F250, but all trucks I've seen on the lot are 9900, presumably because they are cheaper to license?

And at 9900# GVWR, a Reg Cab 4x4 F250 6.2L can easily come in at 3250# payload or better. Your crew cabs are less of course.