Avoiding the Stinky Slinky

there have been many threads in the past concerning people wanting to put RV facilities in at their home. In all cases it was recommended that they install an additional "clean out plug", NOT a RV dump, to avoid any code violations. Don't ask, Don't tell.
bumpy

I could put a combination Y and 1/8 bend and then put a sweep right next to my cleanout and it would be perfectly legal. There is absolutely no logical reason that I would do that. Yes, a cleanout wasn't designed as a RV dump, but the modern double clean outs will accept flow with no issues. If someone wants to go get a permit and put in a sanitary sewer port that will be rarely used then go for it.

JJBIRISH wrote:

Logical and legal aren’t always the same thing...

true.

rockhillmanor wrote:

Do the work yourself, out of view from neighbors and at midnight!!

probably not a bad idea, maybe I should close the gate when I dump. :B

I don't live in my RV, it just gets stored next to my house. I dump when I get home, it's not like I'm hooked up 24/7 to the sewer line so there's really nothing to report. I dump into the cleanout, then put the SS away until next trip.

camperdave wrote:

JJBIRISH wrote:
Dumping to a cleanout at home is most likely a violation of law in most municipalities anyhow, they would generally have stiff fines for doing it if you were caught dumping there…

Again the sewer solutions use almost twice the water to dump the tank (double the effluent) and then use more to flush the tank, the amount of water used to pump it up grades requires higher volumes as well as well…They work but should be banned from use…

It's my stuff. Shower water and other. If it didn't go into the trailer, then down the pipes at home, it would have gone straight into the house. .... I don't see what the big deal is....

You would know it was a big deal when you get slapped with a big $fine$ and not to mention that they will look at everything on your property that might not be code!
Regulations are tighter than you know what now.

Call a Lic. Plumber and 'tell' him you want a clean out installed to dump your RV and he won't do it. It is against the law from what I have seen in all the states. You may legally park your RV but it is never ok to live in one. They see sewage coming out of one on your property and red flags go up all over.

But, tell the plumber you want a clean out installed to ""quote clean out your sewer line"" and he will gladly put one in for you. It's a case of choose your words wisely. And in my experience call a plumber from 2 counties away!

All it takes is ONE cranky neighbor that didn't like it when you parked your RV on your property whether it was legal to do so or not.
THOSE are the ones that will turn you in for each and everything they can see from their house!:C

RV owners rule of thumb:
Do the work yourself, out of view from neighbors and at midnight!!:B

camperdave wrote:

JJBIRISH wrote:
Dumping to a cleanout at home is most likely a violation of law in most municipalities anyhow, they would generally have stiff fines for doing it if you were caught dumping there…

Again the sewer solutions use almost twice the water to dump the tank (double the effluent) and then use more to flush the tank, the amount of water used to pump it up grades requires higher volumes as well as well…

They work but should be banned from use…

It's my stuff. Shower water and other. If it didn't go into the trailer, then down the pipes at home, it would have gone straight into the house. And used a whole lot more water than even the Sewer Solution added, what with the 1.6 gallons/flush residential toilets and high flow showers with big hot water tanks (relative to the trailer). I don't see what the big deal is.

Ya that’s the common refrain but if you have public sewers, you might want to read the rules… if your on city utilities and stay home and use more water you will also pay a higher rate for water and sewer…

Bumpyroad wrote:

JJBIRISH wrote:

Again the sewer solutions use almost twice the water to dump the tank (double the effluent) and then use more to flush the tank, the amount of water used to pump it up grades requires higher volumes as well as well…

They work but should be banned from use…

well I don't think it is quite twice the water considering that some folks who use a stinky slinky have one of those back flow devices and fill up their black tank 2-3 times to get the crud out, and that Stinky slinky rinser attachment I just saw at walmart probably uses quite a bit of water to get that slinky clean. I assume then that you also think that those back flow devices should be banned?
bumpy

actually twice might be on the conservative side if you are lifting and pushing the effluent long distances to… excessive tank rinsing is also wasting water no matter what method you use…
clean fresh water is the one resource we all take for granted…

69 Avion wrote:

JJBIRISH wrote:
Dumping to a cleanout at home is most likely a violation of law in most municipalities anyhow, they would generally have stiff fines for doing it if you were caught dumping there…

Again the sewer solutions use almost twice the water to dump the tank (double the effluent) and then use more to flush the tank, the amount of water used to pump it up grades requires higher volumes as well as well…

They work but should be banned from use…

I'm glad I don't live where you do. There are a lot of people who dump down there clean out. Modern clean outs will have two openings (required by modern codes) to force the cleaning device a certain direction. If you use the upsteam cleanout opening it will force the effluent down stream. It won't hurt anything at all. In my case I'm dumping a 3" stinky slinky contents down a 4" clean out. Besides, where else would someone dump at home. It is the only logical solution.

It has nothing to do with where you or I live really… I have never read of anyplace allowing the cleanout to be used as a second sewer hookup on a permanent or temporary basis… Sure there are a lot of people who dump into their cleanout… but that isn’t the codes purpose for having the cleanouts… they are not meant to be a second hookup… no, it won’t hurt anything but that isn’t the same as saying it’s ok or even legal… it’s only saying that the risk of being caught is low, so the rules don’t apply to you…

But then maybe you can link the code where you live saying the cleanout can be used to connect a permit for a designated RV dump in some areas… although I have never heard of anyone actually doing this by the book …

Logical and legal aren’t always the same thing...


Dumping into your own sewer system is different and has its own risk down the road…

JJBIRISH wrote:
Dumping to a cleanout at home is most likely a violation of law in most municipalities anyhow, they would generally have stiff fines for doing it if you were caught dumping there…

Again the sewer solutions use almost twice the water to dump the tank (double the effluent) and then use more to flush the tank, the amount of water used to pump it up grades requires higher volumes as well as well…

They work but should be banned from use…

I'm glad I don't live where you do. There are a lot of people who dump down there clean out. Modern clean outs will have two openings (required by modern codes) to force the cleaning device a certain direction. If you use the upsteam cleanout opening it will force the effluent down stream. It won't hurt anything at all. In my case I'm dumping a 3" stinky slinky contents down a 4" clean out. Besides, where else would someone dump at home. It is the only logical solution.

Bumpyroad wrote:

JJBIRISH wrote:

Again the sewer solutions use almost twice the water to dump the tank (double the effluent) and then use more to flush the tank, the amount of water used to pump it up grades requires higher volumes as well as well…

They work but should be banned from use…

well I don't think it is quite twice the water considering that some folks who use a stinky slinky have one of those back flow devices and fill up their black tank 2-3 times to get the crud out, and that Stinky slinky rinser attachment I just saw at walmart probably uses quite a bit of water to get that slinky clean. I assume then that you also think that those back flow devices should be banned?
bumpy

In terms of water usage the sewer solution uses additional water to do what electric does with a macerator and what gravity does with a stinky slinky. The SS without a doubt uses additional water much in the same way the macerator uses additional electric vs. the slinky.
Backflushing is really a separate issue. You do not need to back flush with either of the three methods unless you choose to.
My experience has been that the slinky requires less backflushing because the force of dumping water through a 3" hose clears the tank more effectively than dumping through a 1" hose.

JJBIRISH wrote:

Again the sewer solutions use almost twice the water to dump the tank (double the effluent) and then use more to flush the tank, the amount of water used to pump it up grades requires higher volumes as well as well…

They work but should be banned from use…

well I don't think it is quite twice the water considering that some folks who use a stinky slinky have one of those back flow devices and fill up their black tank 2-3 times to get the crud out, and that Stinky slinky rinser attachment I just saw at walmart probably uses quite a bit of water to get that slinky clean. I assume then that you also think that those back flow devices should be banned?
bumpy

smkettner wrote:
I also find it interesting about the concerns on clogging.
Non-issue with a slinky.

seems to me that those "concerns" are mostly expressed by those that have not and do not use a macerator pump. yep, if you have idiots that put various products into your black tank that shouldn't be put there, nor in a septic system either, you are inviting trouble.
bumpy

JJBIRISH wrote:
Dumping to a cleanout at home is most likely a violation of law in most municipalities anyhow, they would generally have stiff fines for doing it if you were caught dumping there…

Again the sewer solutions use almost twice the water to dump the tank (double the effluent) and then use more to flush the tank, the amount of water used to pump it up grades requires higher volumes as well as well…

They work but should be banned from use…

It's my stuff. Shower water and other. If it didn't go into the trailer, then down the pipes at home, it would have gone straight into the house. And used a whole lot more water than even the Sewer Solution added, what with the 1.6 gallons/flush residential toilets and high flow showers with big hot water tanks (relative to the trailer). I don't see what the big deal is.

clogging is a real issue with the SS (can't speak to a macerator). Heaven forbid someone drops a wet wipe into the black tank, that's a messy manual cleanout job. yuck.