cant seem to find a clas C under 29ft reasonable

As far as the resale of no slide models, I have noticed on the Sunseeker forum that there are many owners of the no slide 2300. So maybe the market is not as small as we might think.

Snowman9000 wrote:
OFDPOS, we went through the same process. We decided to buy new because we could not find one used that seemed worth it.

The Nexus are very highly thought of, they seem to be well built. As a point of reference, you can buy a 2015 Sunseeker 2300 like my 2014 for under $52K, if you shop around. That won't be the asking price, you'll have to work them down. Get a price from RVDirect.com as a starting point. It's very similar to the Nexus 23P. Not quite the build quality but I think it's better than some of the other entry level brands. As a company they do put a lot of effort into continuous improvements.

We looked at a Sunseeker 2300 2011, somewhere here on a post I described my experience with it.
Seeing it for a quick 10 min. walk around and inside . Then saw the asking price. Laughed at the salesguy and said without doing my homework I think this would book for maybe 38k , I was wrong it booked for $32,647. Asking was $59,995 BUT was on sale for $49,995...
A quick phone call to the salesguy telling him the book price. Mysteriously a check on their website a couple hours later they brought the price down to $39,900 on their website.
Came back next day and spent 3 hours there looking it over, test driving and had close to two pages of things needed attention to to completely needed replaced.


I see you have a Sunseeker and like it alot. Looks nice !..
For us once we saw that used 2013 23P Nexus , nothing else we have seen has compared to it for the money.
Now I haven't seen a Lazy Dazy or Coach House or ? not sure what other higher end MH brands ?

Yes there are a few things I'd like to see different on the Nexus but the quality fit and finish of the used 13 one we saw, then look at the Coachmen , Freelanders, Leprechauns, Four Winds , and Minni Winni's etc we have looked at just doesn't compare...

Regarding slide outs: We bought a small slideless Class C to get out in the middle of nowhere when necessary for our hobby. The last thing I want out in the middle of nowhere is a slide that won't retract or a slide that starts leaking during a blowing rain storm ... not even considering how much a hole in the wall of a room that is mobile eventually is bound to compromise it's structural intergrity with the resulting consequences.

When we sell our 24 footer if it has to be to a special buyer ... so be it!

wbwood wrote:

ron.dittmer wrote:

wbwood wrote:

ron.dittmer wrote:
I personally feel that 21-22ft is just about the limit in length for full mobility. Ours HERE measures 23'-8" end-to-end and taking a trip without our tow vehicle does have it's limitations.

BTW: Our model is offered with a slide-out. I personally recommend This New Model 15" Stretched Version for a total of 24'-11" but you won't find it used at $40,000. Only ours can be found used in your price range for it has been made for quite some time now.

If you must have extra elbow and head room, then rule out every Phoenix Cruiser for they are intentionally scaled down for ease of drivability and a stronger house structure.

I like that cruiser...it appears to be roomier inside than it looks...

"Roomy" is in the eye of the beholder. Compared to a "B", they are mansions. The interior ceiling in every Phoenix Cruiser is something like 6'-3", much less than typical Cs. They don't have as wide of a body either.

I don't think a couple would comfortably full time in one but it seems to suffice otherwise. No slide to worry or deal with and the height is good for us. I'm only 5'9" and my wife is only 5'1". Great deal for the single person.

There area number of full timing couples in the longer models, singles more common full timing in the shorter models. There are 9 different models HERE to choose from.

Every model can be ordered with or without slide outs. One model has three, our shorter model is offered with one. Even the tiny 21 footer can get a slide out. For my wife and I, we decided to invest that money in a full body paint job instead. We are not big into slide outs at all, but they sure are a popular feature. I think if we ever had to sell our rig, not having a slide out would limit our sales potential significantly. But we really don't care about that. We went for what "we" want.

5'-9" and 5'-1" ??? You'll fit in any PC perfectly. My wife is 5'-1". Your wife will love being able to actually see & reach inside the upper cabinets. The length of our 2350 double bed and shower height are often questioned but they work well for me and I am 5'-11". I don't hit my head on anything on the ceiling, even with my hiking boots on.

ron.dittmer wrote:

wbwood wrote:

ron.dittmer wrote:
I personally feel that 21-22ft is just about the limit in length for full mobility. Ours HERE measures 23'-8" end-to-end and taking a trip without our tow vehicle does have it's limitations.

BTW: Our model is offered with a slide-out. I personally recommend This New Model 15" Stretched Version for a total of 24'-11" but you won't find it used at $40,000. Only ours can be found used in your price range for it has been made for quite some time now.

If you must have extra elbow and head room, then rule out every Phoenix Cruiser for they are intentionally scaled down for ease of drivability and a stronger house structure.

I like that cruiser...it appears to be roomier inside than it looks...

"Roomy" is in the eye of the beholder. Compared to a "B", they are mansions. The interior ceiling in every Phoenix Cruiser is something like 6'-3", much less than typical Cs. They don't have as wide of a body either.

I don't think a couple would comfortably full time in one but it seems to suffice otherwise. No slide to worry or deal with and the height is good for us. I'm only 5'9" and my wife is only 5'1". Great deal for the single person.

I think that 26 ft. really is the magic number. A 24' is a bit short and a 28' starts getting too big to fit in normal parking spaces. I have taken our 26' into some areas that almost require a Jeep and she has handled it fine.

I also notice that you can find a variety of coaches over 30' selling pretty damn cheap.

Jose

wbwood wrote:

ron.dittmer wrote:
I personally feel that 21-22ft is just about the limit in length for full mobility. Ours HERE measures 23'-8" end-to-end and taking a trip without our tow vehicle does have it's limitations.

BTW: Our model is offered with a slide-out. I personally recommend This New Model 15" Stretched Version for a total of 24'-11" but you won't find it used at $40,000. Only ours can be found used in your price range for it has been made for quite some time now.

If you must have extra elbow and head room, then rule out every Phoenix Cruiser for they are intentionally scaled down for ease of drivability and a stronger house structure.

I like that cruiser...it appears to be roomier inside than it looks...

"Roomy" is in the eye of the beholder. Compared to a "B", they are mansions. The interior ceiling in every Phoenix Cruiser is something like 6'-3", much less than typical Cs. They don't have as wide of a body either.

OFDPOS, we went through the same process. We decided to buy new because we could not find one used that seemed worth it.

The Nexus are very highly thought of, they seem to be well built. As a point of reference, you can buy a 2015 Sunseeker 2300 like my 2014 for under $52K, if you shop around. That won't be the asking price, you'll have to work them down. Get a price from RVDirect.com as a starting point. It's very similar to the Nexus 23P. Not quite the build quality but I think it's better than some of the other entry level brands. As a company they do put a lot of effort into continuous improvements.

Wanted to add on my last line in the above post.
Went to the local Camping World about a week ago, we walked into a brand new Four Winds priced at $59,995.00 and the panel right behind the rear of the dinette booth was popped- bowed out in the middle edge ! I could literally fit my hand in the void .. The salesguy was out side bragging about how much better quality built the four winds was over the Coachman I told him about we had just looked at before stopping in there.
The look on his face when I told him to step inside and show us the better quality and me pointing at the panel was well PRICELESS !!!

Yep X3 what a few have said. We had an 2001 GS Conquest Sport 23ft. Since I had back surgery it was just to much to climb up in the overhead. We sold it and been looking for same length only with rear bed.
First used RV dealership we stopped at had a 13 Nexus 23P with 11K miles on it. Price was $54K it was the nicest well built RV we had seen and been in.
But thinking its wayyy out of our price comfort zone.
So it was the thought process of staying in the low $20's.
Absolute garbage every one we looked at. So bumped up to $30 range not much different a few years newer but still filthy dirty, leak stains and was gooing to need alot of tlc/money to bring it up to par.
Bumped to the $40's and started seeing better features but still compared every one to that 13 Nexus we first saw.
Went back to try and deal on the Nexus, but was a day late they sold it the night before.
So started looking at more and it was a combination of private party in over their head and wanted me as the buyer to bail em out or they wanted 5-8K over book price.
Dealers were worse! Had one want to book out the MH I mean build a MH with the NADA book !

Unless something pops up and not garbage like 99% of what we wasted our time to go look at , we are leaning to have one built the way we want it !
Its going to be in the $60s but at least it will be exactly as we want it and NOT settle for something else ...

Don't know if it is just this throw away society we appear to live in this day and time ? But the dollar sure doesn't go very far/buy much