Motorhome parked in driveway

wildmanbaker wrote:
Wow! Some of the comments border on bigotry. Trailer parks, some people cannot afford to live large like some of us. I wondering what other people think of RVers when we are out traveling?
Oldman, Our neighbor has 8 cars, 2 four wheelers. a dirt bike, a Harley, and a covered utility trailer. The house and yard look like a meath house. There are 3 trees down in his back yard from the recent storm. We don't like it, but the city and the lean holder have not been able to do anything about it. I figure, it they don't mind how they live, we can look at the other neighbors housed/yards. Hey, it is what it is. Maybe we should lighten up.

Sure hope you don't intend on selling your property anytime soon. If you did, you might see it in a different light. After the 10th or 11th prospective buyer tells you they aren't willing to buy a house next to a pigsty, maybe you will become a bit more concerned about how your neighbors effect your property values. If your town doesn't have laws on the books to prevent exactly this kind of behavior, shame on them. And apparently, it does bother you, otherwise, how would you know the town looked into it and the lien holder looked into it? (and we know this post is BS, because a lienholder legally couldn't and wouldn't get involved in how a person kept their property. And if it was repossessed they would clean it up to make it saleable.)
As for what others think about RVs and RV parks, I can answer that. I have posted many times that RV parks and the like are HATED buy most neighborhoods and communities. If an application to develop one is filed, there will almost assuredly be widespread community disapproval. RV parks are huge NIMBY (not in my back yard) issues. And an actual trailer park would face the same issues, times a factor of 10.
As a final note, drive thru your average trailer park and you will see that very few of the concerns people have about trailer parks and the people that live in them have anything to do with their economic situation. Being poor does not require you to live like a pig. To not cut the weeds, to not throw away the trash, to not show an ounce of pride in your living environment. Much more likely is having those traits is what led those people to being in their financial situation, not the other way around.

Sadly, we need laws and rules for just about anything. If you don't have them, there is someone who will exploit the lack of those laws and rules and be a nuisance. While not exactly the same a town law banning something, we have to have rules regarding even the most common sense items, otherwise we have problems. For example, we don't allow clotheslines. Not because we care if someone needs to hang their beach towel out to dry, but because if we didn't have the rule, someone will be stringing a half mile of line and hanging their stained underwear out for everyone's viewing pleasure. Heck, we have to have a rule about not parking on the grass. You would think with designated gravel parking spots, that wouldn't be necessary, but remove the rule and soon there will be someone driving their 1 ton dually truck across the site to park at the front door of their fifth wheel. The fact at the truck spun 6 inch deep mud furrows into that yard doesn't matter to them, they are leaving tomorrow.
As for parking ordinance under discussion. You can't depend on your fellow man to have a nice, neat RV in that driveway. You are just as likely to have cousin Eddie's rig in that drive, with his pile of replacement parts tossed in the yard next to it. Now that the driveway is full of RV, the project boat is going to be parked on the street. Since that takes up the parking in front of his house, he will be parking a few of his project cars in front of the neighbors. No problem, the street belongs to everyone. And if inconveniences his neighbors, no problem, because his neighbors aren't his problem.

Wow! Some of the comments border on bigotry. Trailer parks, some people cannot afford to live large like some of us. I wondering what other people think of RVers when we are out traveling?
Oldman, Our neighbor has 8 cars, 2 four wheelers. a dirt bike, a Harley, and a covered utility trailer. The house and yard look like a meath house. There are 3 trees down in his back yard from the recent storm. We don't like it, but the city and the lean holder have not been able to do anything about it. I figure, it they don't mind how they live, we can look at the other neighbors housed/yards. Hey, it is what it is. Maybe we should lighten up.

Sam Spade wrote:

The REAL difficulty here is trying to impose "your" standards on everybody else AFTER THE FACT.

And that is where you want to talk to those looking to change the rules. Every area around here has either grandfathered in every existing RV, boat, or trailer, or given close to 5 years to comply. This is to avoid lawsuits from people that bought an expensive toy and followed all of the rules, only to have them change the rules. Previously this led to many lawsuits, where the courts sided with the homeowners, that cost the communities a lot of money. Now, they have learned and they will always grandfather in an existing vehicle but you usually have to do some paperwork to document it. Don't just roll over with your existing RV unless you want to.

Sam Spade wrote:

2oldman wrote:
You can see the difficulty in this simply by the last few comments.

The REAL difficulty here is trying to impose "your" standards on everybody else AFTER THE FACT..

Well, yeah, I agree, but that's not my particular issue at my house.

My neighbor is an LEO, but routinely violates street-parking laws by having 3 or 4 vehicles parked on the street for more than 24 hours without being moved. Why is this a big deal? For one, it's against the law. Second, those vehicles interfere with access to my own driveway to get my 5er in and out when I please. Third, it's unsightly as hell, and he's the only person on the entire block to think it's ok to have 6 vehicles, a utility trailer, a motorcycle and a step van crammed on 60' of space.

This guy has so much **** he has to have his garbage can picked up across the street at another neighbor's house. That's ridiculous.

But to him, (and he's said this to me) "this house doesn't have enough parking." I'm thinking "then why did you move in here?" Did you happen to look around here before you decided to turn your yard into a vehicle storage lot?

2oldman wrote:
You can see the difficulty in this simply by the last few comments.

The REAL difficulty here is trying to impose "your" standards on everybody else AFTER THE FACT. I think that the people who want to radically change the rules are the ones who should instead be looking for an place that already conforms to their requirements.

I live in a "deed restricted" community that is governed by an HOA (one of the "special" Florida ones but that's another story). We have very strict requirements....but they have been in place since the first foundation was poured and have changed little over the years.
I knew this when I moved in.

We can debate this until hell freezes over but this really is a LEGAL matter and trying to work your way through it without legal counsel is a fools errand.

When someone purchases a home where RV parking is allowed in the front yard, they should fight tooth and nail to save that ability to do so. It can be expensive to store your RV within large cities. With that said, many RVer's are their own worse enemy by having RV's that cover the entire driveway or allow them to fall into disrepair.

I'm not a fan of allowing RV's in a front yard because they can be eyesores, but behind the front edge of the house is fine. In the OP's situation, that might be a reasonable middle ground for new RV owners and grandfathering in of the people who already own RV's.

If you live out in the country and have acres of land, who cares where you store your RV and other types f equipment, but in neighborhoods in large cities it really does hurt property values when someone trashes their house. If you notice, they never really care until it's time to sell their home and then suddenly they want to fix it up, but in the interim, they screwed everyone else whose property value suffered because of their **** hole.

Lastly, we all know what is meant by "trailer park", especially those who have all permanent residents. Obviously, there are nice ones, but that is not what the reference means and it's silly when you argue the point when it's not what the discussion is about.....an issue that is very common here.

You can see the difficulty in this simply by the last few comments.

Kayteg thinks trailer parks are fine, people who don't like clutter are snobs, and then the hyperbole of 'nothing below Mercedes...'

dons and I don't like the mess and think we're reasonable in doing so.

So, for an HOA, the easiest solution is NO rvs, boats, trailers of any kind on the property. And in my view they have to do that because of the endless bickering about what is unsightly vs. "my property, my rights".

msmith1199 wrote:

Kayteg1 wrote:
Something wrong with trailer parks?

Not if you live in one. But I live in a house and I'd rather not have to look at RV's up and down the street. I keep mine on the side yard.

But than where do you stop?
California is known for snobbish residents and we have already seen some samples.
It is no RV on driveway in 1 city, it is no RV, no boats, no pickups in front NOR THE SIDE of the house in my city (even when you have RV pad), it is NOTHING in mentioned HOA in Danville, so where do we go from here?
How about nothing below Mercedes or Lexus in the garage?
No offence Dodge drivers ;)

I can certainly see the need for the law also.
Too many people are just total slobs that have no respect for their property or the property values and visual appeal of their neighbors. I have no problem with someone parking an RV or trailer in their driveway or side yard but then the next house has 2 abandoned pop ups covered with blue tarps and 3 junk cars. The next with 3 rusted boat trailers and a junk pontoon. The next has 3 rusting trucks and some other stuff covered with blue tarps. And on and on.

Maybe it would be a good compromise if you could get them to allow 1 boat or RV per property. That would help property values but not affect the RV owners.