Heads Up PayPal Pay After Delivery Nightmare!

The gist of the matter is the guy bought something he didn't have the money in the account to pay for so his account got overdrawn. Of course E-bay is going to be hard to contact regarding purchases. They are an aggregator of probably 100 million sellers who have absolutely no relationship to E-bay other than they listed their junk for sale on E-bay's site.
Personally, I only order from US companies that show they have the items in stock. I don't have, and wouldn't expect anyone to have, any confidence that a $2.00 item will ship from China and arrive at my doorstep in a couple of days. It has nothing to do with UPS, FedEx, theft, customs or anything else. It has to do with the fact that you are dealing with a supplier 10,000 miles away who speaks a language that has no common elements with the language I speak. Why should you expect some Chinese shipping clerk making probably 15 cents an hour to be exact in copying your shipping information all written in a language that is "Chinese" to them.

I have used Paypal for years for my business with absolutely no problems (thank goodness). My concern is you say you " did, because I have had plenty of problems with purchases not showing up in San Diego after they were paid for"..........seems to me you should be looking into that problem!!!! Post office, FedX or UPS??????

NinerBikes wrote:
I NEVER give Paypal direct access to my bank account number. Everything goes on a charge card, that I can dispute if the item never shows up. I have, in the past 3 months, been having a lot of problems with small things ordered from china that just never show up. Like Customs is perhaps intercepting them and stealing them? LED 4 place voltage meter, that the vendor swore he sent it to me twice. Right now, waiting on some 60 amp gold electrical connectors. I'm thinking either a customs status problem with china by obama, or theft, somewhere along the way. Post office never tells me I have to pay duty or get something cleared by customs.

Either that, or China man is now gaming the system, taking the money, and not shipping anything at all?

I am like you. I put the credit card company between my bank account and anyone trying to perpetrate a fraud or a screwed up purchase. In WV you can dispute a charge on your bank account but the last time I did I had to go to a branch and fill out a plethora of paperwork. Dispute a charge on a credit card? I can either do it online or with a phone call.

Two years ago I used a credit card to fuel my truck and that night I get a text message that $3,000+ had just been charged on the card about 250 miles from where I was staying. While on the phone with Discover another $2,000+ charge at the same store hit the account. They shut the card down and sent me a new card. The thief never ever got near my bank account. You can give your bank account information to whomever but I just don't do it. I only use my bank debit card in two instances...at an ATM to get money (only in WV) or at WalMart to get cash back when I am traveling. Otherwise my debit card resides in the old folder. YMMV

Did Paypal take the money out of your bank account twice? Is that how the account became overdrawn? I'm a little confused about that part.

I've never used the "Pay After Delivery", since I figure that if they push it that hard it probably won't be for my benefit. I do have an bank account linked to Paypal since you couldn't receive over a certain amount, or pay over a certain amount without linking an account. That was shortly after Paypal started up, and I've had no issues with any of it. I do use it only when I'm forced to since I don't like it.

Personally, we never buy anything from an out of USA delivery. EVER.

But, besides that, is it ever worth the headache to save a few cents, even a few dollars to have these kinds of headaches? I donno, but not for me.

Folks pay peanuts, expect value, and get a PITA ... is it worth it?

samsphones wrote:
This has what to do with RVing?

I guess you never order anything for your RV and use paypal, huh?

This has what to do with RVing?

Great. So I get done opening a box from taiwan or somewhere yesterday and it has missing items and now I read this. I opened a case through ebay but haven't heard anything.
I have my bank account linked to Paypal for money transfers and have never had a problem. I probably wont be ordering any more stuff from those types of companies though. You can recognize them by their shipping info and lengthy shipping times.

Amazon is hard to beat. It's also expensive to use paypal on top of selling on FEEbay.

Financial institutions are exact and precise with process and protocol. I thought PayPal would adhere to the custom - I was wrong. I have a contact on the Wall Street journal who expressed interest in this this evening. The feds are going to start regulating this I am convinced. PayPal caused their own misery. They crafted it with loving care.

eBay on the other hand is almost impossible to reach. Boilerplate, after bite it's own tail, link chasing, to resolve payment issues. Have a problem with a vendor almost instant gratification - have a problem with eBay and a person is chasing a phantom.

I'm done - back to Amazon and VISA.

I dropped my pay pal account after both of my cards got hacked at the same time and same day through pay pal. I don't trust them with my money any more.