Winegard Carryout loses signal without 12 volt

bgum wrote:
What we have here is lack of communication. He clearly has Direct TV and not Dish. All channels on DTV are on one bird except locals. His locals are not being spot beamed to him. Whereas Dish channels are on a couple of birds. He does not have High Def. Therefore he can disconnect his 12 volt after finding the bird without loss of programing. All this discussion has not helped him with his problem. Just so you know I do the same thing. I set up the Carryout locate the bird then disconnect the 12 volt. One less wire to trip on. One less power drain, One less wire to break.

It may be DTV in which case all on his SD channels are on one satellite (101) including the local (spot beam) channels.

His post suggests it is not a local problem.

chalet05 wrote:
I have been using the Carryout for a few years as a full-timer. It worked Thursday. Today when I hooked it up, it worked fine until I unplugged it from the 12 volt. Tried it several times. It has a very good signal, perfect weather, etc. It is connected directly to the DVR.

Winegard just told me that 12 volts is needed all the time. The Carryout CAN drift and if 12 volts is connected, will auto correct before it loses the signal. So, IF you disconnect the 12 volt supply and it loses the signal, it is NOT a product malfunction. Doug

What we have here is lack of communication. He clearly has Direct TV and not Dish. All channels on DTV are on one bird except locals. His locals are not being spot beamed to him. Whereas Dish channels are on a couple of birds. He does not have High Def. Therefore he can disconnect his 12 volt after finding the bird without loss of programing. All this discussion has not helped him with his problem. Just so you know I do the same thing. I set up the Carryout locate the bird then disconnect the 12 volt. One less wire to trip on. One less power drain, One less wire to break.

chalet05 wrote:
Look around in a rv park and see how many Carryouts are still connected to anything but the coax cable. I have used this for 3 years and have never left the 12 volt connected once the satellite was found!

That is true. BUT, all things wear with age and you need the 12 volts to allow the Dome to self correct when it drifts/relaxes.

chalet05 wrote:
Look around in a rv park and see how many Carryouts are still connected to anything but the coax cable. I have used this for 3 years and have never left the 12 volt connected once the satellite was found!

Age, voltage levels, power transients, etc can all be factors. Perhaps these are some of the reasons to leave it plugged in.

Call Winegard and let us know what they say.

Look around in a rv park and see how many Carryouts are still connected to anything but the coax cable. I have used this for 3 years and have never left the 12 volt connected once the satellite was found!

RoyB wrote:
I guess most of us are being confused by the requirement for 12VDC that is present on the RG cable to power up the internal PRE-AMPLIFIER of the dish unit.

Not being familiar with any of this I am assuming you have an additional 12VDC being provided to the dish motor circuit to move the antenna pointing directions.

Roy Ken

The DC power applied to the coax by the receiver is used for the LNB antenna and is 2 different voltages depending upon channel selection.

The manual implies that the unit needs the additional 12V power to switch between satellites. So apparently the OP moved or is trying to access different channels and now needs to leave the unit plugged into 12V for the motor.

It does need the 12 volt power source. It will switch between satellites depending on what channel you are selection.

I guess most of us are being confused by the requirement for 12VDC that is present on the RG cable to power up the internal PRE-AMPLIFIER of the dish unit.

Not being familiar with any of this I am assuming you have an additional 12VDC being provided to the dish motor circuit to move the antenna pointing directions.

Roy Ken

Your Carryout REQUIRES a constant 12 volt source to work even if you have already locked onto the Sat. Just like its big brother on motorhomes, without 12 volt power it can "drift" slightly. Keeping power to the dome keeps it locked on. If it starts to "drift", having that 12 volt power allows it to auto correct BEFORE you lose the signal. Doug

Verify power source is providing +12 VDC to the antenna.
• Try an additional power source. Verify the power supply
meets alternative power supply specifications at the bottom
of the page.
• Ensure that the power plug is fully seated and locked into
the power socket on the antenna.