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Anyone interested in 83 Pace Arrow Tear down and Rebuild?

fulltimin
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Started to look into some water damage in the kitchen of our 83 Pace Arrow. The more I looked, the more I found. I have some pics of the damage so far. Anyone interested in following a rebuild thread?
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fulltimin
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So, I moved the stop on the drill bit, until I finally got the depth of cut to where I liked it.



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fulltimin
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Here you can see, after trying different height pieces of plywood, I finally got the bit to start drilling on the side, and not the top. (yellow oval).

However, that also moved the bottom of the hole downward to the point where, it would do no good, strength wise. (red oval). Fix one problem, create another one.



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If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

fulltimin
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Soooooooooo, after some fumbling around I cut a piece of plywood, that was 3/8" thick, and stuck it under the walnut in the Kreg jig. That seemed to cover up the hole in the jig, so that when I started drilling, it would drill into the side and not the top.



If you want to do something, you will find a way.
If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

fulltimin
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Here's what the drill bit sees.



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If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

fulltimin
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It turns out, that the jig is made for stock that is roughly at least 2" wide. If it's not, the drill will do exactly as above. Start drilling through the top of the stock.

Bummer. I have all these rails and stiles cut at 1.5" wide, so I am kind of stuck with them, so all I can do is try to make this work, with what I have.

Yes, I have more walnut available, but I am not interested in wasting what I have, and it is just a touch over 1/2" thick, so if I glue it together width wise, then I'll need to plane it even thinner to make sure the surface is level.

Ah, yea, not going to do that. I am going to use what I have.

After some mental manipulation, I discovered how a 1.5" wide piece of wood looks to a Kreg jig.







As you can see, the hole for the drill bit, starts much higher than the board does. Oops...
If you want to do something, you will find a way.
If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

fulltimin
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When I drilled my first hole, it ended up looking like this....







Yea, the beginning of the hole, started, not on the side of the rail, like I expected, but down through the top. Say what?
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If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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fulltimin
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Today, I discovered a major glitch in the use of the jig. It's my fault, really, I guess.

You know that old saying, "what you don't know can't hurt you"? Well, whoever, "they" are, lied.

Last week I ripped a whole bunch of my black walnut into strips that are 1.5" wide.

The picture below, shows that the bottom rail will be screwed into the plywood below. The red arrows indicate the joint between the plywood and the bottom walnut rail.







As you can see, that means that the screw holes will be drilled crosswise, rather than lengthwise. That created a problem for me.
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fulltimin
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Normally, most of my using my Kreg jig for fastening 2 boards together, has been on boards being drilled like this.



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fulltimin
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fulltimin wrote:
Overall, I should be able to get his glued into place tomorrow. Yay!




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fulltimin
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STBRetired wrote:
Quick question, just because I'm curious.
Why isn't the top shelf lower so that it would form the bottom of the upper cabinet? Are you planning on putting under cabinet lighting in and using the face frame as a valance to hide the fixture?

That walnut will look great once finished.




You are correct. I do plan on putting lighting on the underside of the top shelf. I figure that is the best spot to get the best light on the counter top, and not have to worry about shading the light, if it was mounted on the ceiling.

Good eye!
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fulltimin
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Brob wrote:
Looking good!




Thanks.
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STBRetired
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Quick question, just because I'm curious.
Why isn't the top shelf lower so that it would form the bottom of the upper cabinet? Are you planning on putting under cabinet lighting in and using the face frame as a valance to hide the fixture?

That walnut will look great once finished.
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Brob
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Looking good!

fulltimin
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I finally got my shelf facings cut, drilled with Kreg, and screwed together, with glue.

These are not fastened to the plywood yet, and I have just a little bit to add here, but this is all one piece now. Overall, I should be able to get his glued into place tomorrow. Yay!



If you want to do something, you will find a way.
If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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Good judgement comes from experience.
A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

fulltimin
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For those times when you think that I can drill holes just a little faster, if I put 2 pieces of wood in my Kreg drilling jig, at one time.



If you want to do something, you will find a way.
If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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Good judgement comes from experience.
A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.