Any satelitte systems for both TV and Internet combined?

[DarkSkySeeker]

I am wondering if there is a combo dish solution for TV and Internet?

[TechWriter]

Big Katuna wrote:
I looked hard at sat internet when Motosat was getting popular.

The speed is tolerable say on a longer download. What sucks what’s called latentcy.

Data goes up from your dish to a sat, gets processed, then sent back to earth to their receiver, routed to the appropriate place in the internet, back to the big dish, back to space, routed, then back to you. So lots of back and forth like gaming, and it’s slooooww.

That was your father's HughesNet (Ku band). The current HughesNET Gen 5 (Ka band) is much faster (~ 20Mbps). Latency is still an issue, but I haven't found it to be a deal breaker.

OP, if you want internet satellite service, I think you're best bet is a portable HughesNET Gen 5 setup.

[Dutch_12078]

DarkSkySeeker wrote:

Big Katuna wrote:


Data goes up from your dish to a sat, gets processed, then sent back to earth to their receiver, routed to the appropriate place in the internet, back to the big dish, back to space, routed, then back to you. So lots of back and forth like gaming, and it’s slooooww.

Can't the satellite orbit a little lower to reduce the distance? Like half a mile up? Low enough to eliminate the latency. Just kidding.

If your patient, Elon Musk/Spacex will soon start putting up thousands of low earth orbit (LEO) satellites for worldwide high speed Internet service with latency claimed to approach that of cable and fiber services.

[DarkSkySeeker]

Big Katuna wrote:


Data goes up from your dish to a sat, gets processed, then sent back to earth to their receiver, routed to the appropriate place in the internet, back to the big dish, back to space, routed, then back to you. So lots of back and forth like gaming, and it’s slooooww.

Can't the satellite orbit a little lower to reduce the distance? Like half a mile up? Low enough to eliminate the latency. Just kidding.

[Big_Katuna]

I looked hard at sat internet when Motosat was getting popular.

The speed is tolerable say on a longer download. What sucks what’s called latentcy.

Data goes up from your dish to a sat, gets processed, then sent back to earth to their receiver, routed to the appropriate place in the internet, back to the big dish, back to space, routed, then back to you. So lots of back and forth like gaming, and it’s slooooww.

[DarkSkySeeker]

We're pretty far off topic now, although I don't mind.

In my original post, I was hoping for a dish that could do TV and (slow pinging satellite) Internet, in one package.

The cell phone (solution) is great as long of you have data. I just wanted to be sure I was not missing a golden solution that only salty old RVers knew about.

[Big_Katuna]

theoldwizard1 wrote:
You have to be pretty far "off the beaten path" to not be able to get a cell phone signal these days ! The combination of a cell phone "hotspot" with connection to an external, high mounted, antenna, with or without an amplifier will be able to pull in a signal for a fairly long distance.

SE Michigan is so hilly.

We spend summers in central, rural Ohio where it’s very hilly and there are LOTS of places without cell service.

Same for W. Virginia. On top of the hill you have a bar or two. Drive off the hill, no bars.

The convenience stores still have pay phones as cell service is poor. No joke.

[BB_TX]

DarkSkySeeker wrote:

bob_nestor wrote:
...in parts of West Texas you can't even get Mexican Christian Country on the radio!

(tongue in cheek) Oh dear!

And spotty many places. I live just outside a large town 30 miles north of Dallas. Within a mile or so radius of our house, cell (Verizon and ATT) are both weak, just strong enough to, most of the time, make/receive a phone call. Go a little over a mile away any direction and great LTE signal.
At our hunting cabin in the TX hill country, again signal is weak near the cabin, but great a half mile or so away. And at an RV park in southern Colorado we would sometimes have to go 2-3 miles away to get reliable cell signal, both Verizon and ATT. No obvious reason for any of them, except maybe the RV park.

[DarkSkySeeker]

bob_nestor wrote:
...in parts of West Texas you can't even get Mexican Christian Country on the radio!

(tongue in cheek) Oh dear!

[bob_nestor]

theoldwizard1 wrote:
You have to be pretty far "off the beaten path" to not be able to get a cell phone signal these days ! The combination of a cell phone "hotspot" with connection to an external, high mounted, antenna, with or without an amplifier will be able to pull in a signal for a fairly long distance.

There are still lots of place where you can get some voice but no data on your cell. Plus what you can get really depends on the cell equipment you have - 2G, 3G, LTE and the bands your equipment supports. (I've got AT&T in my car, the Mobley in my RV and on my cell and am always amazed how many times I've seen vast differences in what I can receive in different places with all three at the same time.) And in parts of West Texas you can't even get Mexican Christian Country on the radio!

[theoldwizard1]

You have to be pretty far "off the beaten path" to not be able to get a cell phone signal these days ! The combination of a cell phone "hotspot" with connection to an external, high mounted, antenna, with or without an amplifier will be able to pull in a signal for a fairly long distance.

[wa8yxm]

The answer is perhaps. Or there used to be... But I do not know if it is still.

Back when I had Hughes Net and DIREC TV I had what Motosat calles a "Bird on a wire" this is a DirecTV Single or dual (Forget which) LNB on an arm that hung off the side of the main LNB/BUC arm for the Hughes 7000

Had I had a different Hughesnet assignment I could have hung "Multiple" LNB (triple today) and picked up Dish instead of Directr.

BUT I do not knwo if they are still doing new 7000 installations (hughes) and DirecTV is .... well.. Good chance they will soon drop the satellite that system picked up. and possible go to internet only in the not too distant future.

FInally.... SPeeds on the 7000 were low to mid DSL.. nothing to brag about.

[Almot]

I vaguely recall that Dishnetwork used to have an agreement with Hughes to run it with a 2nd LNB, not sure this is still a fact.

With Viasat you'll want unlimited data plan (kind of, see below). Plans after 3 month introductory catch start from $70 plus tax. This is internet only. Direct TV plans start from $35 for basic plan. Unlimited data means until you exceed 100GB (?) per month. Then your speed drops to crawl. They also have a limited data plan for $50, but it doesn't look good.

Data cap, cost upwards of $100 (for internet+TV) and sub-par speeds make this combo not very attractive.

It "sounds" like DirecTV can be received on Viasat dish, not 100% positive. But it doesn't work the other way around - DirecTV dish won't receive Viasat internet.

Go cold turkey. Camp WiFi where there is any, none where there isn't. Few TV channels of free to air broadcasting where it works, radio where it doesn't.

[Bill_Satellite]

I believe the Hughesnet satellite internet antenna is still capable of receiving the DirecTV programming with a separate set of LNB's attached to side of the arm used to receive the internet service. It does take a VERY large antenna that you could setup on a tripod and manually move and point at each new location.
Give Barb Nolley a call at https://www.mobileinternetsatellite.com/about-us.php
and she will be able to fill you in with what's available these days. We are not affiliated in any way but she if very knowledgeable and has been doing this for a long time. Tell her Bill from the former Internet Anywhere said Hi!

[BB_TX]

The two satellite internet providers