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Anyone interested in 83 Pace Arrow Tear down and Rebuild?

fulltimin
Nomad
Nomad
Started to look into some water damage in the kitchen of our 83 Pace Arrow. The more I looked, the more I found. I have some pics of the damage so far. Anyone interested in following a rebuild thread?
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jtaylor1920
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Explorer
fulltimin wrote:
Quick survey .... Put the walnut on top, or rout the drawer front out, and mount it flush? Whatta ya think?


I vote to route it out and install it flush.
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fulltimin
Nomad
Nomad
Quick survey .... Put the walnut on top, or rout the drawer front out, and mount it flush? Whatta ya think?
If you want to do something, you will find a way.
If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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Good judgement comes from experience.
A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

fulltimin
Nomad
Nomad
Here's a picture of one of the drawer fronts. he red arrow is pointing to the thin piece I glued to the top of the drawer front.

You will notice the red arrow shows the top piece sticks out over the front just a little bit.

I figured that would work a little better, if I butted the piece in the front up against the top piece, and then trimmed the top piece off after gluing.

With a couple of coats of Por 15 on top of them both, should help strengthen things there.



If you want to do something, you will find a way.
If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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Good judgement comes from experience.
A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

fulltimin
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Nomad
Here's a quick look at the drawers with only the top of the drawer visible with the walnut covering the plywood edges.

It shows a little contrast. Not enough to suit me, so I'll have to add some walnut to the fronts as well.



If you want to do something, you will find a way.
If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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Good judgement comes from experience.
A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

fulltimin
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Nomad
sundancer268 wrote:
fulltimin wrote:
This is a rough draft of a possible drawer front, with black walnut. These are just sitting there, not glued into place, just to see how it would look.

It does provide a little contrast.




Will this be routed in to be flush or set on top to provide a visual ant tactile feel? Either way, I like the contrast.



That's a good question. I really hadn't thought about it much, I just figured I'd set it on top of the plywood.
If you want to do something, you will find a way.
If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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Good judgement comes from experience.
A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

sundancer268
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Explorer
fulltimin wrote:
This is a rough draft of a possible drawer front, with black walnut. These are just sitting there, not glued into place, just to see how it would look.

It does provide a little contrast.




Will this be routed in to be flush or set on top to provide a visual ant tactile feel? Either way, I like the contrast.
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fulltimin
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This is a rough draft of a possible drawer front, with black walnut. These are just sitting there, not glued into place, just to see how it would look.

It does provide a little contrast.



If you want to do something, you will find a way.
If you don't, you will find an excuse.

-------------------------------------------------

Good judgement comes from experience.
A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

fulltimin
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Nomad
This was one of the few times that I violated the normal rules of using a router.

In this pic, the left side is normally how a router would be used, if the bit is rotating clockwise, then the router should move from right to left, based on the red arrow being the router direction, and the black arrow being the rotating direction of the router bit.

However, since the walnut that I am trimming, is very thin, there is very little danger of the router bit grabbing the work, and pulling itself into the work.

However, using the example on the left, it is very possible to "chip" the walnut.

What I did was go the opposite way. (right side, router bit direction is black arrow, and blue arrow is router direction). I had no problems with the router grabbing the work, and pulling the router forward, uncontrollably.

If I was cutting more thickness than the 1/32" - say, 1/2 to 3/4", that would be an entirely different story. In that scenario, the router will grab the wood, and pull itself into the work, which is NOT a good thing. Be Careful!!!



If you want to do something, you will find a way.
If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

fulltimin
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I pulled out my mini router, and stuck in it a straight router bit with a bearing on the bottom.

Time to trim off the excess walnut that I just glued into place.



If you want to do something, you will find a way.
If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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Good judgement comes from experience.
A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

fulltimin
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magik235 wrote:
nohurry wrote:
Well here we are fulltimin, four years to the day and your still at it. Iโ€™m not sure if I should congratulate you or not, but I sure admire your persistence lol!

My hats off to you.

Iโ€™m on page one, and I canโ€™t believe Iโ€™m still with you on this. But I am, and will be till the bitter end, whenever that is. Canโ€™t give up now.

I guess Iโ€™ll just wish you luck in getting it finished in time to use, and enjoy it for a few years.

Carry on.


X 2




Thank you. ๐Ÿ™‚
If you want to do something, you will find a way.
If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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Good judgement comes from experience.
A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

fulltimin
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Glued some more drawers today, both top and bottom walnut pieces.











I now have the last 5 of those glued on to the plywood.

Next will be to glue the sides on.
If you want to do something, you will find a way.
If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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Good judgement comes from experience.
A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

magik235
Explorer
Explorer
nohurry wrote:
Well here we are fulltimin, four years to the day and your still at it. Iโ€™m not sure if I should congratulate you or not, but I sure admire your persistence lol!

My hats off to you.

Iโ€™m on page one, and I canโ€™t believe Iโ€™m still with you on this. But I am, and will be till the bitter end, whenever that is. Canโ€™t give up now.

I guess Iโ€™ll just wish you luck in getting it finished in time to use, and enjoy it for a few years.

Carry on.


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fulltimin
Nomad
Nomad
nohurry wrote:
Well here we are fulltimin, four years to the day and your still at it. Iโ€™m not sure if I should congratulate you or not, but I sure admire your persistence lol!

My hats off to you.

Iโ€™m on page one, and I canโ€™t believe Iโ€™m still with you on this. But I am, and will be till the bitter end, whenever that is. Canโ€™t give up now.

I guess Iโ€™ll just wish you luck in getting it finished in time to use, and enjoy it for a few years.

Carry on.




Probably just not smart enough to know when to quit. Lol.

Seriously though, it's much easier to keep going if I just concentrate on "what can I do today", as opposed to "everything that needs to be done".

Thank you for following, and hopefully I'll be able to ramp up the amount of work getting done on a daily basis, shortly.

Still will be some surprises to come - as in - "this guy's crazy".

Actually, I think some of this build will work better for us in the long run, but we'll see. If we don't fully like it, we can change it down the road.

As you have seen during this adventure, the vast majority of this has been done with the Ryobi cordless, portable power tools.

To me, many times, technique will accomplish more, than just having all the newest and greatest machinery, and not know how to use them. Then again, that's just my thinking.

Thanks for hanging in there.
If you want to do something, you will find a way.
If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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Good judgement comes from experience.
A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

fulltimin
Nomad
Nomad
zigzagrv wrote:
I am 'assuming' you will be putting black walnut veneer on the drawer fronts? Curious how you will be cutting that wide veneer?




I don't plan on completely covering the fronts, but just a portion, so we have a little contrast on the drawer fronts. Some black walnut, and some maple.

With the table saw, I could cut about 3" on each side for a total of 6" of height. I could also cut about 6-7" on the bandsaw and then either sand or plane it. Might have to go a little thicker than 1/32" thick though, IF I was planning on covering the entire front.
If you want to do something, you will find a way.
If you don't, you will find an excuse.

-------------------------------------------------

Good judgement comes from experience.
A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

nohurry
Explorer
Explorer
Well here we are fulltimin, four years to the day and your still at it. Iโ€™m not sure if I should congratulate you or not, but I sure admire your persistence lol!

My hats off to you.

Iโ€™m on page one, and I canโ€™t believe Iโ€™m still with you on this. But I am, and will be till the bitter end, whenever that is. Canโ€™t give up now.

I guess Iโ€™ll just wish you luck in getting it finished in time to use, and enjoy it for a few years.

Carry on.
Carl
2007 National RV, Sea Breeze