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M@G Break System

bluwtr49
Explorer II
Explorer II
I've been looking at a different breaking system for my toad ('03 Jeep GC Overland) and find the M@G system interesting.

I currently have a Ready Break which is fine but the extra length and weight is becoming an annoyance.

The M@G seems to be the least invasive and the MH is already equipped with an air outlet for a breaking system. I do not want anything that requires an extra piece of hardware attached/removed each time I tow. Just an air line attachment seems like the way to go which was an appealing virtue of the Ready Beak....attach cable and leave.

I would be very interested in hearing comments about the M@G system including installation, operation, ease of use, and etc.

thanks for any input.
Dick

2002 43' DP Beaver Marquis Emerald Cat C-12 505 HP, 1600 Tq
2003 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland ---toad
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Crespro
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I had the M&G on a 2008 Saturn and just had it installed on my new 2014 Buick Enclave. Check to see that it is available for your toad. I bought a new model for the Enclave.

It also is a good idea to use an experienced installer -- a list is on the M&G site. The connection is very easy. I also use a Demco baseplate and Aluminator tow bar. The installer placed a plate under my license plate for the connections. With that plate and the Demco plastic covers for the connectors, the setup is not visible -- perhaps not important for some but a nice feature on this SUV. I also had the breakaway installed.
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DSDP_Don
Explorer
Explorer
I think the M&G unit is the best of it's type, "IF" you have room for the unit. The M&G unit bolts between the master cylinder power booster and the master cylinder. Some cars just don't have the room to move the master cylinder.

My vehicle didn't have room and I went with the SMI Air Force One. I believe the M&G unit has an air lockout, just like the SMI if the unit detaches.
Don & Mary
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ILVMYGT
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M&G unit is a good unit, but I don't think it is isolates the MH air brake system. My understanding that if the car departed from the MH (air line from coach to car severed) there will be an air leak in the MH brake system. Air Force One put a module in line that isolates the MH brake system, if the car departs the MH brakes are not affected.
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mci7
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Explorer
bluwtr, if you don't mind cutting the top inside of fender to make clearence for the M&G unit, am certain it would work just fine, but am not willing to cut up or cut outs an area for clearence. very simple if you would just look at it. in other words it don't fit every vehicle. happy for the folks who use it.
Dave m
Dave M
Central Virginia
Had MCI Conversion 20+ yrs
Presently 2001 Foretravel w/ISM500
Usual Toad 2004 F150 Ford w/Can Am 800 Max

falconman
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Explorer
I was looking at the AF 1 as well as the M&G for my 06 Wrangler. I chose the M&G to save the installation costs. My MH was already set up with an airline and wasn't sure if that line would be compatible with the AF unit. Either unit would be fine. However, I would caution you about the installation process. On my install you have to pull the master cylinder away from the booster to insert the MG unit. There are two push rod adjustments that are needed and if done incorrectly you will have problems. If your not comfortable with that type of work then be sure to factor in installation costs. What may be easy for some can be a nightmare for others.

BigSkyBob
Explorer
Explorer
I installed my M&G brake system on two different trucks myself, not difficult at all. It works flawlessly and is proportional to the braking effort applied to the coach. Hooks up in 5 seconds rain or shine. Highly recommended.
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John_S_
Explorer II
Explorer II
I too looked at M&G and on the Wrangler it was not a problem but on my Overland I dod not have enough room and would have to cut some stuff. I decided to go with Air Force One. It works very well adn no cutting of the inner fender stuff.
John
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bluwtr49
Explorer II
Explorer II
mci7 wrote:
I ordered the M&G unit, looks great, problem was in order to install it required destroying the inner fender and the problem with that is what to do when wanting to resell the F150 pickup. So went with the Air Force 1 unit and happy with it after about 35,000 miles, easy hookup etc.
Dave M


Why did it require destroying the inner fender???
Dick

2002 43' DP Beaver Marquis Emerald Cat C-12 505 HP, 1600 Tq
2003 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland ---toad

mci7
Explorer
Explorer
I ordered the M&G unit, looks great, problem was in order to install it required destroying the inner fender and the problem with that is what to do when wanting to resell the F150 pickup. So went with the Air Force 1 unit and happy with it after about 35,000 miles, easy hookup etc.
Dave M
Dave M
Central Virginia
Had MCI Conversion 20+ yrs
Presently 2001 Foretravel w/ISM500
Usual Toad 2004 F150 Ford w/Can Am 800 Max

Skylark
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Explorer
I have used the M & G brake & breakaway system on my wrangler TJ for 8 years now. No problems whatsoever. I had mine installed by dealer. Easy set up, no adjustments, connect air hose, & just tap on brake 2 to 3 times to charge the breakaway. Using the brakes in a panic stop, all 4 wheels will stop. One item that I am glad that I purchased, and didn't squander on. You will not be sorry with the M & G brake system.

I used the system for my with air brakes.

Gonzo42
Explorer
Explorer
I'm interested in this system but the website indicates at least 3 models relating to the tow vehicle brake system. Could you indicate which style you are all using?
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koda55
Explorer
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I have the M&G braking system on our 2008 Chevy HHR. I just hook up the air line and the brake away. System has worked great on our old gasser and now on our DP.

TexasShadow
Explorer II
Explorer II
I did the install myself on my 2004 Grand Cherokee with no problems 10 years ago. I also installed the breakaway system without a problem. I have towed over a 110,000 miles without a problem. When I change my toad I will use the M& G trade in program for a replacement unit.
Bill
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Mr_Mark1
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bluwtr49 wrote:
Thanks for the replies, I'm glad to hear it works as well as advertised. I think I will order one and find somebody to do the install....web site suggests it's not a DIY install.


Before you buy, talk to the installer first. I would not have known the M&G would not fit in the newly designed 2013 Honda CR-V. The SMI fit perfectly and works about the same. I saved 5 hours of labor going with a better fitting unit.

Safe travels,
MM.
Mr.Mark
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