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Tom_Barb
Explorer
Explorer
I am waiting for a return call from NEWMAR 2 weeks now.
I wanted talk to a tech, about a electrical problem..
I called again, and was told we have a call in them but you must wait your turn..

its 2 weeks
2000 Newmar mountain aire 4081 DP, ISC/350 Allison 6 speed, Wrangler JL toad.
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Tom_Barb
Explorer
Explorer
MountainAir05 wrote:
go from one of the accessories and tone back to the relay /switch

If that fails, pull the fuse and power from the relay side toward the relay. Voltage should show up downstream. Relay will not work due to no ground trigger.

The way I read your statement is power flows from switch to relay but relay will not contact. If power is at relay then the ground is not working, but that could come from the accessories panel back to relay or from the switch. I no longer have my books for your RV. I sold mine some years back and all that stuff went to the new owner.

If you jump power from relay then does the accessories start working.


Thank You

I'm working on it..
2000 Newmar mountain aire 4081 DP, ISC/350 Allison 6 speed, Wrangler JL toad.

MountainAir05
Explorer II
Explorer II
go from one of the accessories and tone back to the relay /switch

If that fails, pull the fuse and power from the relay side toward the relay. Voltage should show up downstream. Relay will not work due to no ground trigger.

The way I read your statement is power flows from switch to relay but relay will not contact. If power is at relay then the ground is not working, but that could come from the accessories panel back to relay or from the switch. I no longer have my books for your RV. I sold mine some years back and all that stuff went to the new owner.

If you jump power from relay then does the accessories start working.

Tom_Barb
Explorer
Explorer
MountainAir05 wrote:
Tom/Barb wrote:
Tom/Barb wrote:
MountainAir05 wrote:
fuzzyface wrote:
A quick search on Amazon turned up this result:


https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=tone+wire+tracer&ref=nb_sb_noss_1



Thanks, faster than I.

Gene

Thanks guy/gals
It is on order.
Now I must learn to use it ๐Ÿ™‚


I received the Tone Generator yesterday,,, what a cool tool.


Did you fine your fault

No,,
2000 Newmar mountain aire 4081 DP, ISC/350 Allison 6 speed, Wrangler JL toad.

MountainAir05
Explorer II
Explorer II
Tom/Barb wrote:
Tom/Barb wrote:
MountainAir05 wrote:
fuzzyface wrote:
A quick search on Amazon turned up this result:


https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=tone+wire+tracer&ref=nb_sb_noss_1



Thanks, faster than I.

Gene

Thanks guy/gals
It is on order.
Now I must learn to use it ๐Ÿ™‚


I received the Tone Generator yesterday,,, what a cool tool.


Did you fine your fault

Tom_Barb
Explorer
Explorer
Tom/Barb wrote:
MountainAir05 wrote:
fuzzyface wrote:
A quick search on Amazon turned up this result:


https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=tone+wire+tracer&ref=nb_sb_noss_1



Thanks, faster than I.

Gene

Thanks guy/gals
It is on order.
Now I must learn to use it ๐Ÿ™‚


I received the Tone Generator yesterday,,, what a cool tool.
2000 Newmar mountain aire 4081 DP, ISC/350 Allison 6 speed, Wrangler JL toad.

Blaster_Man
Explorer
Explorer
My experience is that the tech side of the house will not call back. You have to call them and wait in line until they get to you. They all like to say, "call, leave us a message and we will call you back."
2014 American Eagle

Tom_Barb
Explorer
Explorer
dougrainer wrote:
Page 143. For Frtliner. Next page for Spartan. Is this what you have 2000 is about the same as 2002.


https://newpar.newmarcorp.com/instance1Env99NEWMAR/html/images/2002DSDPOG.pdf


that's the same as ours
Ours is a 2000mountain aire.
Spartan

the relays I know about are labeled ACC# 1 and ACC#2
2000 Newmar mountain aire 4081 DP, ISC/350 Allison 6 speed, Wrangler JL toad.

dougrainer
Nomad
Nomad
Page 143. For Frtliner. Next page for Spartan. Is this what you have 2000 is about the same as 2002.


https://newpar.newmarcorp.com/instance1Env99NEWMAR/html/images/2002DSDPOG.pdf

MountainAir05
Explorer II
Explorer II
Tom/Barb wrote:
MountainAir05 wrote:
just a tip. Find the wire you want to trace and ensure you disconnect the power to the circuit 12 volt or AC. Then connect one wire to the wire tracing and the other to a ground. You will be surprise how you did without one.


Home-depot shows one,, not in this store.

ordering one from Amazon ๐Ÿ™‚

Is there a good one or ?


I only use Fluke so can't help on any others.

Tom_Barb
Explorer
Explorer
dougrainer wrote:
On your year model, you should have a Plexiglas covered Fuse/Relay panel above the Genset. This is the area of these controls you need fixed.


I know the area in the nose cap, there are 3 boxes, which relay do you think is at fault.
2000 Newmar mountain aire 4081 DP, ISC/350 Allison 6 speed, Wrangler JL toad.

Tom_Barb
Explorer
Explorer
MountainAir05 wrote:
just a tip. Find the wire you want to trace and ensure you disconnect the power to the circuit 12 volt or AC. Then connect one wire to the wire tracing and the other to a ground. You will be surprise how you did without one.


Home-depot shows one,, not in this store.

ordering one from Amazon ๐Ÿ™‚

Is there a good one or ?
2000 Newmar mountain aire 4081 DP, ISC/350 Allison 6 speed, Wrangler JL toad.

MountainAir05
Explorer II
Explorer II
Tom/Barb wrote:
MountainAir05 wrote:
fuzzyface wrote:
A quick search on Amazon turned up this result:


https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=tone+wire+tracer&ref=nb_sb_noss_1



Thanks, faster than I.

Gene

Thanks guy/gals
It is on order.
Now I must learn to use it ๐Ÿ™‚


just a tip. Find the wire you want to trace and ensure you disconnect the power to the circuit 12 volt or AC. Then connect one wire to the wire tracing and the other to a ground. You will be surprise how you did without one.

Tom_Barb
Explorer
Explorer
MountainAir05 wrote:
fuzzyface wrote:
A quick search on Amazon turned up this result:


https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=tone+wire+tracer&ref=nb_sb_noss_1



Thanks, faster than I.

Gene

Thanks guy/gals
It is on order.
Now I must learn to use it ๐Ÿ™‚
2000 Newmar mountain aire 4081 DP, ISC/350 Allison 6 speed, Wrangler JL toad.

Tom_Barb
Explorer
Explorer
dougrainer wrote:
What do you mean 5 Junction boxes? Are you talking about the Freightliner/Sparten black boxes? If so, these have NOTHING to do with the Ignition key activated Dash accessories. The system that activates the Newmar Dash Accessories is NEWMAR installed as well as the Solenoid/relay. On your year model, you should have a Plexiglas covered Fuse/Relay panel above the Genset. This is the area of these controls you need fixed. HOW CAN YOU STATE RELAY'S/SOLENOIDS HAVE BEEN CHECKED AND ALL OPERATE?. Obviously the Acc solenoid is NOT operating. Either it is bad(stuck open) or the power wire to it has a blown fuse. The fuse is usually at the drivers area inside fuse block(frtliner or sparten). SOME models the Dash Chassis Fuse block is also inside that plexiglas covered panel. Doug


Common relays are not brain surgery. they are easy to show works or not, these all work when tested
the Newmar module you speak of was replaced.. simply ... it is not being turn on.
there are two 10 gauge wires labeled battery and ignition the battery shows 12 volts when the key is turned on. the ignition never shows 12volts either position Acc/IGN. the diesel runs fine.
2000 Newmar mountain aire 4081 DP, ISC/350 Allison 6 speed, Wrangler JL toad.