Where does one find out the wet weight of an RV?

[Chowan]

Ok, I know what the gcwr, gvwr, gawr f/r. but where do I find the overall wet weight of a MH so I can figure out how much I can put on board? Thanks for the help.

[Chowan]

Thanks for the help guys.

[kknowlton]

Some RVs now list the UVW or the CCC (or both) on a sticker on the exterior. Ours does that; no stickers in the cabinets.

[jrp]

Chowan wrote:
Thanks for the explanation. So the big question is where does one find the UVW? Not in the brochure or on line.

Call a Winnie sales person and ask for it, or visit a dealer that has one of these in stock and look for the label inside one of the interior cabinets that lists the UVW and CCC.

[usersmanual]

Thanks for the explanation. So the big question is where does one find the UVW? Not in the brochure or on line.

unfortunately you will need to run it empty over the weigh scale
Seems odd no UVW is there but it is what it is
maybe phone them? long shot but who knows ?

[Chowan]

jrp wrote:

Chowan wrote:
I am not saying we are going to purchase this rv, but this is what we looked at yesterday.
No matter what we get I need to know and understand how much I can load and pull with any DP.
Winnebago Solei.
GCWR 33,000
GVWR 27,910
GAWR 10,410
GAWR 17,500

So if I a understanding these numbers correctly I have approximately 5900 lb to play with which will have to include my toad?

No, you're not understanding it correctly. You can not calculate "how much you can carry" without knowing the UVW unloaded vehicle weight. From the above you know that the max weight of the motorhome and all its contents & passengers may never exceed 27,910 lbs. Next you need to subtract the UVW. Just to have a number, lets say the UVW is 23,500 lbs. Then using that example, 27910 - 23500 = 4,410 would be your cargo carrying capacity; including all passengers, contents of tanks & all your on board stuff.
Also note that, even if you're under the 27910 with all your stuff loaded, you still must not exceed either the 10410 on the front axle or the 17500 on the rear axle. You may have to shift some contents to keep the overall balance within the axle limits. Depending on the location of your water tank, sometimes traveling with a near full water tank may put you over the front axle limit, even though you're under the overall GVWR.

As far as your allowed towed weight behind the MH, thats 33000 - 27910 = 5090 lbs (or more if you're under the GVWR)
But the hitch on that MH is probably rated for only 5000 lbs. So your real toad limit is 5000

Thanks for the explanation. So the big question is where does one find the UVW? Not in the brochure or on line.

[rk911]

Chowan wrote:

J-Rooster wrote:
I did the overall weight in my Winnebago W-22 Chassis one time when I bought it new in 2004. I filled all tanks, except for gray and black tank and I didn't weigh with my toad. And my RV was overweight. I never bothered to weigh it again.

So you drive overloaded? How many of you guys drive over loaded? How many even care? How many don't know? I want to know if I am being over cautious, at the same I don't want to endanger anyone. Never owned an RV before. Thanks for all you help.

I bet a lot of owners would rather not know. me, just the opposite. IMO it is reckless not to know and if known not to take remedial steps. but that's me.

[jrp]

Chowan wrote:
I am not saying we are going to purchase this rv, but this is what we looked at yesterday.
No matter what we get I need to know and understand how much I can load and pull with any DP.
Winnebago Solei.
GCWR 33,000
GVWR 27,910
GAWR 10,410
GAWR 17,500

So if I a understanding these numbers correctly I have approximately 5900 lb to play with which will have to include my toad?

No, you're not understanding it correctly. You can not calculate "how much you can carry" without knowing the UVW unloaded vehicle weight. From the above you know that the max weight of the motorhome and all its contents & passengers may never exceed 27,910 lbs. Next you need to subtract the UVW. Just to have a number, lets say the UVW is 23,500 lbs. Then using that example, 27910 - 23500 = 4,410 would be your cargo carrying capacity; including all passengers, contents of tanks & all your on board stuff.
Also note that, even if you're under the 27910 with all your stuff loaded, you still must not exceed either the 10410 on the front axle or the 17500 on the rear axle. You may have to shift some contents to keep the overall balance within the axle limits. Depending on the location of your water tank, sometimes traveling with a near full water tank may put you over the front axle limit, even though you're under the overall GVWR.

As far as your allowed towed weight behind the MH, thats 33000 - 27910 = 5090 lbs (or more if you're under the GVWR)
But the hitch on that MH is probably rated for only 5000 lbs. So your real toad limit is 5000

[Chowan]

J-Rooster wrote:
I did the overall weight in my Winnebago W-22 Chassis one time when I bought it new in 2004. I filled all tanks, except for gray and black tank and I didn't weigh with my toad. And my RV was overweight. I never bothered to weigh it again.

So you drive overloaded? How many of you guys drive over loaded? How many even care? How many don't know? I want to know if I am being over cautious, at the same I don't want to endanger anyone. Never owned an RV before. Thanks for all you help.

[Bill_Satellite]

There are 2 known numbers that cannot be fudged. The carrying capacity of each of the axles and what the scales show each axle is carrying. The difference between capacity and weight is what you have left for loading additional "stuff" into the RV.
The next thing you have to consider is how much of a towed you can tow. This has more to do with the weight of a fully loaded coach plus the weight of the tow vehicle and whether the coach can safely stop the combined weight of the 2 vehicles.
Be sure you buy a coach that will get both of these formulas right or don't buy it!

[rk911]

Chowan wrote:
Ok, I know what the gcwr, gvwr, gawr f/r. but where do I find the overall wet weight of a MH so I can figure out how much I can put on board? Thanks for the help.

do not trust the labels you might find inside closets, cupboards, on a salesman's clipboard, etc. the only true way to determine any of the various weights is to weigh the MH at a certified scale. IMO the RV industry has, maybe purposefully, confused the issue of weights. all you really need to know are the

- empty weight: (minimal fuel, no supplies, people, etc. this gives you the base weight of the unit.

- wet weight: full fuel, fresh water and LP tanks. you might consider filling the gray and black tanks, too, to get a 'worst case' number.

- loaded weight: full fuel, fresh water and LP tanks plus food, supplies, clothing, people, pets and other stuff.

of course, you need individual axle weights for all of the above. once you know these weights you will also know how much weight you can safely tow which, in general, will be the lesser of the following:

- the GCWR (gross combination weight rating) of the MH minus the actual weight of the MH as it is loaded for travel (includes fuel, fresh water, food, clothing, people, pets, supplies, etc.)

- the weight rating of your tow bar

- the weight rating of your hitch

good luck.

[diplomatdon]

GCVWR= Total weight allowed of motorhome and towed vehicle
GVWR = Total weight allowed of motorhome
GAWR = Total weight allowed on front axle
GAWR = Total weight allowed on rear axle

What you need to know is the UVW or unloaded vehicle weight or dry weight. This is usually given in the same place as the other weights you supplied. However the only true way to find this out is to weight it empty. As for weight allowed to tow is dictated by both GCVWR and hitch rating, in your case probably 5000#

[Dennis12]

I drive truck and DOT drives me nuts on a monthly basis. Clean new trucks but still hassled. When you have the unit call DOT and tell them it's your neighbors that is out of town and you have the key and you want them to weight it because you know that they are overweight and you are concerned about their saftey.

[wallynm]

For a guesmate take volume of all tanks in gallons and multiply by 8.5 plus you and all passengers weights. Then weight of all you required stuff you travel with. Now add it up and will be in the ball park. [kquote=Chowan]Ok, I know what the gcwr, gvwr, gawr f/r. but where do I find the overall wet weight of a MH so I can figure out how much I can put on board? Thanks for the help.

[usersmanual]

Chowan wrote:
I am not saying we are going to purchase this rv, but this is what we looked at yesterday.
No matter what we get I need to know and understand how much I can load and pull with any DP.
Winnebago Solei.
GCWR 33,000
GVWR 27,910
GAWR 10,410
GAWR 17,500

So if I a understanding these numbers correctly I have approximately 5900 lb to play with which will have to include my toad?

No Your Gross is 27910 which has to include your cargo(people fuel,water,propane grocerys,clothes ,dishes etc etc)
The Overall weight combination is 33000 so your tow limit alone in theory is 5090lbs BUT if you pack less of a load(below allowable gross) then your tow capacity will increase