โJun-20-2007 05:58 PM
โJun-27-2007 07:47 AM
rvjer wrote:
Well, IMO, an Aux brake system is a necessity. I understand that not all people think that is true and that is their privilege, but I KNOW my rig stops shorter and with less pedal effort with the brake system then without it. I have tested this under controlled situations to prove the point. Also having the ability to adjust the braking force from the dash of the M/H is a great bonus. Yes, any system can fail, but how many do you hear of in relation to how many are being used? My proportional system does need to be installed but it can be moved from one vehicle to another and I have done exactly that. The "brake in a box" systems are good in a panic situation and work fine if you don't mind installing and uninstalling it each time you use it, or if you change toads often it might make more sense.
โJun-27-2007 07:44 AM
jahapp wrote:magicbus wrote:jahapp wrote:
I invested in a braking system Johnny. The pendulum stuck on and the light did not come on. Cost me $2300 for a complete brake job.I have elected not to use it any longer. The other side of the coin is I have seen 2 separate instances of toad underneath mh for lack of a system.
Aside form the fact that I never felt the need for one, this is probably the single biggest concern I have... I simply do not trust them. I am a bit confused by the last statement about the "toad underneath mh"... I guess this implies that the tow bar was not properly leveled with the RV hitch:?
Dave
When the mh panic stops, the rear end raises up, the front end of the toad drops down and the toad slides around sideways and ends up underneath the back end of the mh.
โJun-22-2007 07:03 PM
โJun-22-2007 05:33 PM
โJun-21-2007 08:32 PM
jahapp wrote:Wow! You have actually had this happen to you???!!! I simply can't imagine how a toad could end up under and RV unless they were way out of height alignment - and even then I would think the sheer weight of the MH should prevent this. Could you post more information on your rig? Maybe in a different thread as this is a bit off-topic but certainly of interest as it could happen to anyone - even if their Brake Buddy fails in a panic stop.
When the mh panic stops, the rear end raises up, the front end of the toad drops down and the toad slides around sideways and ends up underneath the back end of the mh.
โJun-21-2007 06:50 PM
magicbus wrote:jahapp wrote:
I invested in a braking system Johnny. The pendulum stuck on and the light did not come on. Cost me $2300 for a complete brake job.I have elected not to use it any longer. The other side of the coin is I have seen 2 separate instances of toad underneath mh for lack of a system.
Aside form the fact that I never felt the need for one, this is probably the single biggest concern I have... I simply do not trust them. I am a bit confused by the last statement about the "toad underneath mh"... I guess this implies that the tow bar was not properly leveled with the RV hitch:?
Dave
โJun-21-2007 11:41 AM
JohnnyT wrote:stevelv wrote:
So here's a technical question
If a manufacturer rates their braking system for the GCWR of the MH (that's the weight of the MH PLUS the weight of the toad) then can braking distances be shortened by having a supplementary braking system operating on the toad?
First I do not think there are many Motorhomes with brakes rated to full GCWR...
I believe that supplemental brake "can" shorten the stopping distances under some circumstances... The question is how much and under what circumstances... And it would depend a great deal on which supplemental brake system... Since many of the supplemental brake systems have user settings which will vary the amount of braking force.
Supplemental Brakes are not the panacea for accident avoidance...I do believe that no amount of added braking force will overcome driver errors due to inattentiveness, fatique or mistakes in judgment. Or add any predictable protection due to actions of other vehicles, road hazards, or road conditions.
I do believe that aside from failure of the supplemental brakes which is possible that the addition of a supplemental brake system can add a safety margin.
JohnnyT Moderator
โJun-21-2007 10:33 AM
stevelv wrote:
So here's a technical question
If a manufacturer rates their braking system for the GCWR of the MH (that's the weight of the MH PLUS the weight of the toad) then can braking distances be shortened by having a supplementary braking system operating on the toad?
โJun-21-2007 09:13 AM
โJun-21-2007 09:02 AM
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โJun-21-2007 07:26 AM
magicbus wrote:
Johnny - In the interests of accuracy I humbly suggest that you remove the "Ability to have Break Away braking" from your list of items to think about. This has been covered a number of time on this forum and a very simple breakaway system is available for any vehicle and it has nothing to do with an aux system.
Click here for a stand alone breakaway system
Dave
โJun-21-2007 07:15 AM
โJun-21-2007 07:14 AM
โJun-21-2007 06:44 AM
jahapp wrote:
I invested in a braking system Johnny. The pendulum stuck on and the light did not come on. Cost me $2300 for a complete brake job.I have elected not to use it any longer. The other side of the coin is I have seen 2 separate instances of toad underneath mh for lack of a system.