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14F freezer is good enough

Almot
Explorer III
Explorer III
Have been having these doubts for some time, 0F/-18C "recommended" by FDA and similar Canadian health authority, while my meat and fish remain quite hard and I am still alive with freezer temps ranging from 10F/-12C to 7F/-14C.

So I did some research.

At 14F/-10C fatty fish remains edible for 2 months, and lean fish - 3 months: blue line on the chart. 2 months seems like a long trip to me.

Was more difficult to find data for frozen meat, though here is a 60-days study of buffalo meat at 40F/4C and 14F/-10C, long and rather technical article. They found that 4 days in fridge and 30 days in freezer at 0F/10C is still good. See the Conclusion. From the tables it follows that the microbial activity in freezer at 14F/-10C was DECREASING with time, all the way to the day 60.

So, - forget FDA guidelines 0F/18C. These are temps that will keep your food from spoiling indefinitely. You are not going to live indefinitely. If your fridge keeps 40F/4C, and freezer 14F/-10C - this is enough for most vacation trips and more than enough for a weekend trip. Don't lose your sleep over that. Manufacturers have detailed specs that consumers don't usually see - like max 0F in the center of freezing chamber and max 14F at the door, and even those max values you might not get in real life. I am not talking about deep freeze chests that can do -22F, those are different.
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TechWriter
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mena661 wrote:
TechWriter wrote:
So your "research" consists of one 2005 livestock institute report from India on buffalo meat?

Good one! I thought you were serious at first.
Yet you present ZERO data to back up or refute his??? LOL! Always one of your types in EVERY internet forum. Thanks Almot for looking that up!! Great stuff!


Exactly! Silly me for trusting the junk science of the FDA.

I should know better that the cutting edge refrigeration research is really going on here in an RV forum.

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sh410
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But what about ice cream!

mena661
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TechWriter wrote:
So your "research" consists of one 2005 livestock institute report from India on buffalo meat?

Good one! I thought you were serious at first.
Yet you present ZERO data to back up or refute his??? LOL! Always one of your types in EVERY internet forum. Thanks Almot for looking that up!! Great stuff!

TechWriter
Explorer
Explorer
Almot wrote:
Have been having these doubts for some time, 0F/-18C "recommended" by FDA and similar Canadian health authority, . . .

So I did some research.

So, - forget FDA guidelines 0F/18C. These are temps that will keep your food from spoiling indefinitely. You are not going to live indefinitely. If your fridge keeps 40F/4C, and freezer 14F/-10C - this is enough for most vacation trips and more than enough for a weekend trip. Don't lose your sleep over that.


So your "research" consists of one 2005 livestock institute report from India on buffalo meat?

Good one! I thought you were serious at first.
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mlts22
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I've had cans burst when frozen, so I'm leery of that. Maybe storing them at a temperature in the low 30s (since they are not just water, their freezing point is lower) might be a good compromise.

Almot
Explorer III
Explorer III
On some canned foods I don't see any expiration date. Canned fish have a few years of shelf life, as I recall.

pianotuna
Nomad III
Nomad III
Hi Almot,

Thanks for the research.

Now, if I could find out what happens to the shelf life of canned goods. I want to know how much heat shortens the life span--and what happens if and when they happen to freeze.
Regards, Don
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