Propane Tank @ Camping World Store - threads stripped!

[Skid_Row_Joe]

Stopped at a Camping World this afternoon, and before I could get out of the coach, an employee had the hose attached and tried to fill my on-board propane bottle. All kinds of hissing off to the side of the connection, so he unscrews it, says that it may be cross threaded, then tries again with a good screw-down fit Well, more hissing and loss of propane from hose. I ask him to reconnect 3rd try, after we both inspect the brass threads to see the starting point brass is sheared off, and same thing - loss of propane out the hose from the supply tank at Camping World Store.

The last time I got propane, the connection worked fine! So, does this indicate that maybe the guy today messed it up by cross-threading it? He did in fact connect it once, then backed off and reconnected it before terming my orifice as damaged.

So, I said I'll come back in the morning to have the service dept. R & R a new brass orifice on my propane tank.

What am I looking at in price/cost in terms of dollars?

Should I approach the General Manager at the Camping World with this issue, after getting the work started on the R & R?

Just want to be fair here, is all.

[dougrainer]

Bobbo wrote:

B.O. Plenty wrote:
I had one of my tanks filled at a propane dealer in Johnson City TX a couple years ago. The guy that filled it who acted like he was doing me a favor, did not open the bleeder screw and when I asked about it he said he didn't have to. Shoots that licensed theory down doesn't it?

B.O.

You will always find "professionals" who don't do what they should. Years ago, I took a continuing education course that talked about hospital acquired infections. They talked about one hospital that had a string of infections of a very unusual kind. I don't recall now what the germ was. The infectious disease department FINALLY tracked it down. The pharmacist who made the IV's was a nose picker.

There are a LOT of professions that you have to be licensed to do the job. As stated above, NOT ALL follow the law and training, that does NOT mean having regs and rules is a futile gesture. You do NOT have to be a licensed worker to fill LP in Texas. But, you MUST be under the watch of a licensed LP filler. Doug

[Bird_Freak]

B.O. Plenty wrote:

dougrainer wrote:

Skid Row Joe wrote:
OK, so, with the good info and tips since my last post, where would I buy/ source an O-ring gasket for my brass receiver fitting?

BTW, I went across the Interstate highway to a commercial RV park, and filled my tank easy enough. However, there was direct leakage of liquid propane and hissing straight down from my brass receiver fitting while the guy was filling my tank. He did not open/vent the square nut to relieve pressure as the tank was filling, so, this might be the resultant condition with my weak seal on my tank when filling.

The CW store was certain their orifice was good, since they stated that they filled two more tanks this morning since last night's trying to fill my LP tank.

Just my best shot filling in info on what's going on, on my end.

That "square" nut is NOT to relieve the pressure while filling. That is called the 80% valve. YOU ALWAYS OPEN IT WHEN FILLING, NO EXCEPTIONS. The reason you open it is because, IF that 80% valve spews white liquid LP while filling you STOP the fill. The LP tank has reached its 80% liquid capacity. The Auto Stop devices sometimes are not that accurate. NEVER rely on the Auto Stop valve to stop when filling. What you have experienced is the difference between states that regulate and license LP fillers and repair technicians and states that have no regulations. I live in a state(Texas) that heavily regulates LP and Natural gas and from my knowledge and being licensed by the State for 36 years agree with the laws and regulations. It makes us(Texans) safer. Too bad all states do not regulate LP and Natural gas. Doug

I had one of my tanks filled at a propane dealer in Johnson City TX a couple years ago. The guy that filled it who acted like he was doing me a favor, did not open the bleeder screw and when I asked about it he said he didn't have to. Shoots that licensed theory down doesn't it?

B.O.

Not to me it doesn't. Have you never seen someone doing a job they were not licensed to do?

[Bird_Freak]

itguy08 wrote:

Chris Bryant wrote:
NASA isn't fond of O rings either. Watching Challenger from my back yard left a lasting impression.

It was more like not listening to the engineers that they didn't know what would happen to the O-Ring at those temperatures and launching any way. There was plenty of blame to go all around but had they listened to the engineers and postponed the launch those people would still be here today.

You are exactly right. A very good friend of mine was a lead engineer with the Saturn 5 and worked on the shuttles also quit NASA because of this before the Challenger blew up. They called him back days after the accident and he went back to work for them.

[Skid_Row_Joe]

dougrainer wrote:
That "square" nut is NOT to relieve the pressure while filling. That is called the 80% valve. YOU ALWAYS OPEN IT WHEN FILLING, NO EXCEPTIONS. The reason you open it is because, IF that 80% valve spews white liquid LP while filling you STOP the fill. The LP tank has reached its 80% liquid capacity. The Auto Stop devices sometimes are not that accurate. NEVER rely on the Auto Stop valve to stop when filling. What you have experienced is the difference between states that regulate and license LP fillers and repair technicians and states that have no regulations. I live in a state(Texas) that heavily regulates LP and Natural gas and from my knowledge and being licensed by the State for 36 years agree with the laws and regulations. It makes us(Texans) safer. Too bad all states do not regulate LP and Natural gas. Doug

Doug, Great info to learn here. 🙂

[Bobbo]

B.O. Plenty wrote:
I had one of my tanks filled at a propane dealer in Johnson City TX a couple years ago. The guy that filled it who acted like he was doing me a favor, did not open the bleeder screw and when I asked about it he said he didn't have to. Shoots that licensed theory down doesn't it?

B.O.

You will always find "professionals" who don't do what they should. Years ago, I took a continuing education course that talked about hospital acquired infections. They talked about one hospital that had a string of infections of a very unusual kind. I don't recall now what the germ was. The infectious disease department FINALLY tracked it down. The pharmacist who made the IV's was a nose picker.

[MEXICOWANDERER]

Glad to know I am not alone in my bitterness toard NASA salesman executive officers who sought kudos from the government for funding. Later on I spent en entire day with a Morton Thiokol engineer tring to ring him out of a deep deprrssion. He was under an illusion that the American public despised him and Morton Thiokol. If it were up to me the entire senior management of NASA woild never have had the a a ility to bear children.

Change that O-ring seal ONCE PER YEAR whether you think it needs it or not. Hardware stores carry them and they used to cost thirty cents.

[B_O__Plenty]

dougrainer wrote:

Skid Row Joe wrote:
OK, so, with the good info and tips since my last post, where would I buy/ source an O-ring gasket for my brass receiver fitting?

BTW, I went across the Interstate highway to a commercial RV park, and filled my tank easy enough. However, there was direct leakage of liquid propane and hissing straight down from my brass receiver fitting while the guy was filling my tank. He did not open/vent the square nut to relieve pressure as the tank was filling, so, this might be the resultant condition with my weak seal on my tank when filling.

The CW store was certain their orifice was good, since they stated that they filled two more tanks this morning since last night's trying to fill my LP tank.

Just my best shot filling in info on what's going on, on my end.

That "square" nut is NOT to relieve the pressure while filling. That is called the 80% valve. YOU ALWAYS OPEN IT WHEN FILLING, NO EXCEPTIONS. The reason you open it is because, IF that 80% valve spews white liquid LP while filling you STOP the fill. The LP tank has reached its 80% liquid capacity. The Auto Stop devices sometimes are not that accurate. NEVER rely on the Auto Stop valve to stop when filling. What you have experienced is the difference between states that regulate and license LP fillers and repair technicians and states that have no regulations. I live in a state(Texas) that heavily regulates LP and Natural gas and from my knowledge and being licensed by the State for 36 years agree with the laws and regulations. It makes us(Texans) safer. Too bad all states do not regulate LP and Natural gas. Doug

I had one of my tanks filled at a propane dealer in Johnson City TX a couple years ago. The guy that filled it who acted like he was doing me a favor, did not open the bleeder screw and when I asked about it he said he didn't have to. Shoots that licensed theory down doesn't it?

B.O.

[dougrainer]

Skid Row Joe wrote:
OK, so, with the good info and tips since my last post, where would I buy/ source an O-ring gasket for my brass receiver fitting?

BTW, I went across the Interstate highway to a commercial RV park, and filled my tank easy enough. However, there was direct leakage of liquid propane and hissing straight down from my brass receiver fitting while the guy was filling my tank. He did not open/vent the square nut to relieve pressure as the tank was filling, so, this might be the resultant condition with my weak seal on my tank when filling.

The CW store was certain their orifice was good, since they stated that they filled two more tanks this morning since last night's trying to fill my LP tank.

Just my best shot filling in info on what's going on, on my end.

That "square" nut is NOT to relieve the pressure while filling. That is called the 80% valve. YOU ALWAYS OPEN IT WHEN FILLING, NO EXCEPTIONS. The reason you open it is because, IF that 80% valve spews white liquid LP while filling you STOP the fill. The LP tank has reached its 80% liquid capacity. The Auto Stop devices sometimes are not that accurate. NEVER rely on the Auto Stop valve to stop when filling. What you have experienced is the difference between states that regulate and license LP fillers and repair technicians and states that have no regulations. I live in a state(Texas) that heavily regulates LP and Natural gas and from my knowledge and being licensed by the State for 36 years agree with the laws and regulations. It makes us(Texans) safer. Too bad all states do not regulate LP and Natural gas. Doug

[itguy08]

Chris Bryant wrote:
NASA isn't fond of O rings either. Watching Challenger from my back yard left a lasting impression.

It was more like not listening to the engineers that they didn't know what would happen to the O-Ring at those temperatures and launching any way. There was plenty of blame to go all around but had they listened to the engineers and postponed the launch those people would still be here today.

[Skid_Row_Joe]

OK, so, with the good info and tips since my last post, where would I buy/ source an O-ring gasket for my brass receiver fitting?

BTW, I went across the Interstate highway to a commercial RV park, and filled my tank easy enough. However, there was direct leakage of liquid propane and hissing straight down from my brass receiver fitting while the guy was filling my tank. He did not open/vent the square nut to relieve pressure as the tank was filling, so, this might be the resultant condition with my weak seal on my tank when filling.

The CW store was certain their orifice was good, since they stated that they filled two more tanks this morning since last night's trying to fill my LP tank.

Just my best shot filling in info on what's going on, on my end.

[Chris_Bryant]

NASA isn't fond of O rings either. Watching Challenger from my back yard left a lasting impression.

[MEXICOWANDERER]

Aha but wisdom does sell 🙂

With liquid and vapor fueled generators to play with (they wouldn't let me exclude the prime mover, hence the fuel - I had to teach myself the basics.

I hate O-ring POL fittings with a Purple passion. A flaky o-ring caused a clandestine leak weeks after the connection tested bubble-free with a fluorescent soap solution. Leaked >30% contents of a 200 lb cylinder. Professionals hate o-rings too.

[Chris_Bryant]

I do not think the dispenser should have a gasket- certainly not 2 against each other- it's always a gasket against metal. I bet the gasket on the dispenser stuck from the last fill.
I'm not 100% on this though- I don't sell LP.

[MEXICOWANDERER]

It is a cruel fallacy that just because the neoprene o-ring is there is has to seal correctly. They flatten.

Sheared brass threads leave loose curls of brass for all to see. I have seen cases of Steel Ball / Feather Duster POL valves. None would allow hand starting of the fitting to the valve. Not one-eighth of a turn.

Go to someone who deals with propane fittings. Not a possible reject burger flipper.