UPDATE Removing Sharp Carousel Micro/convection

[Canadian_Rainbi]

Anyone out there that knows how to remove a Sharp Carousel MicroConvection oven from a 2002 Itasca Horizon?

We're in southern Mexico so too far from an RV shop. I need to get it out to see if there is anything that I can fix or get fixed here.

This is a daily use item and we depend on it for cooking most of our meals. When the outside temperature is 26C (79F) at 9:00 AM with daily highs in the 30s we really don't want to fire up the propane oven! :E

[road-runner]

donn0128 wrote:

Every RV microwave I have had to deal with are mounted exactly the same as household. The only exception MIGHT be one or two extra screws somewhere.

There are differences. Mine latches onto a plate behind the oven, held to the outer wall with 20 smallish screws, then with 4 big screws it hangs from aluminum extrusions anchored to the ceiling.

[MrWizard]

There were FOUR screws , 2 large,2 small holding the oem GE MW, in this safari
A replacement GE MW, also took four screws, but did come with a wall support hanging plate to help support the weight ,(extra percaution for cheap cabinets?)
That took some small screws to fasten to the wall
The original MW lasted 15 years, this one has been hanging there 6 years
Still rock solid

[Canadian_Rainbi]

UPDATE:

I decided to heat another cup of tea, no bang, no smell, no smoke. Continued to use it. We are now (and have been almost three weeks) in Puerto Vallarta and still use the microwave several times a day. In fact at the moment it is cooking a pizza in Convect mode. It would appear that the arcing managed to burn off what ever was causing the problem.

I may still take it out and have a look myself and/or have a tech look at it.

[Canadian_Rainbi]

Thanks all for suggestions. It looks like it won't be too difficult to remove except for the weight. Heaven knows what I am going to put it on to look at. There is not Picnic table at the site; they are rare if not non existant in Mexico. The folding tables we carry with art light duty ones, in fact one collapsed a few days ago under the weight of a 20 litre water jug!

I'm not going to take it out until I find a place that may be able to service it. We are an hour and a half from Lazero Cardedas, 4 hours from Uruapan, 4-5 hours from Acapulco and the same from Morelia.

Might have to wait until we get to Puerto Vallarta or Mazatlan in a couple of months.

[dougrainer]

gotsmart wrote:
Doug,
Maybe you could school the folks at Tiffin. I helped a co-worker remove the below Sharp R1875 Convection Microwave from his Phaeton. It died and he bought an identical replacement unit at Home Depot. Tiffin only used the 2 mounting points on the top of the microwave's case in the upper cabinet. No additional screws were added to the top of the case by Tiffin.

When my Sharp R820BK died I opted to chase down the internal fuse instead of wholesale replacement like my co-worker did. Mine had a blown internal fuse, plus I did not want to give it up because it's a grilling convection microwave. The R1875 doesn't grill.

I WORK at a Tiffin dealer and have for 37 years. I have removed hundreds of Tiffin M/w ovens and ALL had those extra screws. I just cannot get how people with NO REAL knowledge of how items are installed in RV's want to continue to argue points that they are not knowledgeable on. IF you had the model that has the BOLTS(not screws) that come DOWN from a cabinet on top, then the M/W will NOT have those extra screws. The OP does NOT have that style mount. Doug

[MEXICOWANDERER]

Maybe Mr Ranier could offer some additional info as to whether this unit has security Torx screws for the cabinet cover. Security Torx have a pin in the middle of the star shaped hole.

Factory approved appliance service centers have tools equipment and knowledge to deal with control and magnetron malfunction. Other than tricloroethylene I know of no alternative to flush conductive coatings off of high voltage parts. Living near the tropic ocean I have run into this problem with Pabasonic, Sharp, and LG.

There are TWO fuses not one in these units. Usually a 10 or 15 amp for power and a 5 for control board.

Forget Chetumal QR for fast service. Use Cancun. Tapachula Chiapas has a service outlet. I do not know about San Cristobal de Las Casas. Acapulco has five service centers and Villahermosa three.

Hope this helps.

[gotsmart]

Doug,
Maybe you could school the folks at Tiffin. I helped a co-worker remove the below Sharp R1875 Convection Microwave from his Phaeton. It died and he bought an identical replacement unit at Home Depot. Tiffin only used the 2 mounting points on the top of the microwave's case in the upper cabinet. No additional screws were added to the top of the case by Tiffin.

When my Sharp R820BK died I opted to chase down the internal fuse instead of wholesale replacement like my co-worker did. Mine had a blown internal fuse, plus I did not want to give it up because it's a grilling convection microwave. The R1875 doesn't grill.

[dougrainer]

gotsmart wrote:
Sharp install manual.

-There is a large metal mounting bracket that is secured to the wall.
-Inside the upper cabinet above the microwave there should be 2 screws near the front of the microwave - one on the left and one on the right. See step 8 on page 7 of the install manual. The microwave's case is set up for 2 mounting points to the upper cabinet, although, as others have stated, there may be additional screws that are securing the microwave's case to the upper cabinet as well.
-Removing the grills from the bottom of the microwave will reveal 2 long bolts that go up at a diagonal that hold the microwave to the metal mounting bracket.

While this is true for HOME installs, it does NOT take into account the extra screws RV makers MUST install to keep the Microwave from vibrating and breaking the wall mount off the wall. EVERY over the counter RV M/W I have removed and reinstalled in the past 20 years(HUNDREDS if not Thousands) ALL have those extra screws that will not be listed in the M/W install manual. Doug

[gotsmart]

Sharp install manual.

-There is a large metal mounting bracket that is secured to the wall.
-Inside the upper cabinet above the microwave there should be 2 screws near the front of the microwave - one on the left and one on the right. See step 8 on page 7 of the install manual. The microwave's case is set up for 2 mounting points to the upper cabinet, although, as others have stated, there may be additional screws that are securing the microwave's case to the upper cabinet as well.
-Removing the grills from the bottom of the microwave will reveal 2 long bolts that go up at a diagonal that hold the microwave to the metal mounting bracket.

[Canadian_Rainbi]

MrWizard wrote:
A picture of the MW in the cabinet would be helpful
Is it an over the cook top hanging under a cabinet
Or is it totally enclosed in a cabinet

Bit of both! Here are the photos.

Plug is in the overhead cabinet


Below with filters in place


Left side bottom with filter removed. Right side mirror image

[Canadian_Rainbi]

MrWizard wrote:
A picture of the MW in the cabinet would be helpful
Is it an over the cook top hanging under a cabinet
Or is it totally enclosed in a cabinet

An over the stove hanging under a cabinet. More or less. Photos to come. Have to post them to my blog first! That's only three weeks behind, thanks for the incentive!

[RLS7201]

My MW requires the removal of 5 screws.
Remove two screws from top trim panel. Remove panel
Remove three screws from behind trim panel.
Unplug and remove MW.



Richard

[MrWizard]

A picture of the MW in the cabinet would be helpful
Is it an over the cook top hanging under a cabinet
Or is it totally enclosed in a cabinet

[dougrainer]

donn0128 wrote:

dougrainer wrote:

donn0128 wrote:
Removing microwaves is a straight foreword job. In the cupboard or cabinet above it you will find where it is plugged in. Unplug it. Next look, you will see two philips head screws on the floor or the cabinet. Remove them. Either have someone hold the microwave up or be prepared. They are heavy and akward. Once the screws are out, tip towards you to about 45 degrees and lift off the bracket.

What you stated is true for a Stick home mount but it is MORE detailed on a RV mount. RV's they MUST install extra screws to secure the top of the M/W to the overhead cabinet. If they did not install those extra screws, the M/W would eventually crack the rear wall mount plate from vibration and the unit would fall off the wall. The only exception to those extra screws are M/W that have the 2 standard mount screws that come down from the top overhead cabinet into the top of the M/W, which usually is in Towables, not Motorhomes due to clearance issues. Doug

Every RV microwave I have had to deal with are mounted exactly the same as household. The only exception MIGHT be one or two extra screws somewhere.

Well, I do not know how many or what you do for a living. BUT, I have been an RV tech and current for 37 years and NONE on the hundreds of over the counter M/W's I have removed and reinstalled had ONLY the Standard mount bolts. ALL have had the extra screws I stated and had them for the reason I posted. FYI, when UNDER warranty, the M/W repair people that come out will NOT remove an RV M/W, because of the extra screws. They have us or the customer do it if the customer knows how. Same with residential refers in the RV's. They will not remove mounting bolts and screws on those refers. We or the customer has to do it. Doug