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What's with the ridgey exterior walls on the Jayco TTs?

MookieKat
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Why would they use the ridgey outside walls like that? It looks like it would create more wind resistance and be less aerodynamic. Also looks tough to keep clean! I have seen old TTs with dirt in every groove.
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WoodGlue
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Marsland wrote:
MookieKat,

Please take no offense to what I say, but respectfully, looking for the most ideal material, the best floorplan, and so forth is an impossible task. You will get people to agree and disagree on almost every question you ask.

As far as the "best" construction goes, how much money do you want to spend? That's probably the answer to that question.

There are literally probably millions of happy campers out there with dozens of different type materials and thousands of floor plans. To go out and for your first purchase find the exact match for you is shooting for the moon. It's most likely not going to happen.

Simply stated, there is no perfect RV, hence all the different options out there. Find one you think you can live with and jump into the pool. And be adaptable. Otherwise you'll undoubtedly be unhappy.

I've had, let me see, 11 different RV's over about 35 years, all types, mostly used, some new. Happy with all but one, old class C motor home, was really a piece of junk, my bad. We just enjoyed what we had. But they all have limitations. Size, weight, capacity's, comfort.

Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with researching and learning. Just don't over think this. You'll wind up with no RV or unhappy with your choice.

Again, Respectfully submitted,
Richard

X2 on this! Very well stated Richard!

Just find out what fits in your budget. Look at a bunch of them and take the leap!

WoodGlue
2002 Land Rover Discovery II
2014 Lance 1685 - Loaded - 4 Seasons - Solar - 2 AGM's
When Hell Freezes Over - I'll Camp There Too!
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Marsland
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MookieKat,

Please take no offense to what I say, but respectfully, looking for the most ideal material, the best floorplan, and so forth is an impossible task. You will get people to agree and disagree on almost every question you ask.

As far as the "best" construction goes, how much money do you want to spend? That's probably the answer to that question.

There are literally probably millions of happy campers out there with dozens of different type materials and thousands of floor plans. To go out and for your first purchase find the exact match for you is shooting for the moon. It's most likely not going to happen.

Simply stated, there is no perfect RV, hence all the different options out there. Find one you think you can live with and jump into the pool. And be adaptable. Otherwise you'll undoubtedly be unhappy.

I've had, let me see, 11 different RV's over about 35 years, all types, mostly used, some new. Happy with all but one, old class C motor home, was really a piece of junk, my bad. We just enjoyed what we had. But they all have limitations. Size, weight, capacity's, comfort.

Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with researching and learning. Just don't over think this. You'll wind up with no RV or unhappy with your choice.

Again, Respectfully submitted,
Richard
1 (Re)tired DH
1 Terrific DW
2012 Keystone Bullet 284RLS
2012 Ford F150 S/Crew ECOBoost
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WoodGlue
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Maybe an CampLite Trailer

CampLite

Which is all aluminum w/ Azdel.

WoodGlue
2002 Land Rover Discovery II
2014 Lance 1685 - Loaded - 4 Seasons - Solar - 2 AGM's
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MookieKat
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What type of outer walls are there in production today? What should I aim for and what exactly should I avoid?

MookieKat
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So then...the Jayco is really a better build?

westend
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Count me in as a Tin-Wood-Hugger. Heck, what could be more organic than the tree the studs were cut from?
'03 F-250 4x4 CC
'71 Starcraft Wanderstar -- The Cowboy/Hilton

Francesca_Knowl
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Aluminum is definitely "greener" than any/all composites. In addition to the obvious simplicity-of-manufacture (which doesn't involve the kind of chemical stews required for composites), it's one of the very few materials in the RV-making world that are truly and continuously recyclable.

The siding on that new trailer may well have been aluminum window frames in a former life and it'll be reused again once the trailer goes to the wrecker...not so with composites.
" Not every mind that wanders is lost. " With apologies to J.R.R. Tolkien

WoodGlue
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I respectfully disagree with everything Mike Up has to say about any kind or type of RV construction.

WoodGlue
2002 Land Rover Discovery II
2014 Lance 1685 - Loaded - 4 Seasons - Solar - 2 AGM's
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Mike_Up
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WoodGlue wrote:
Mike Up,

Not all aluminum framed trailers are gluing or vacuum bonding - Lance pinch rolls their sides w/ Azdel, a proven superior product, lighter and better and stronger than luaun or studded wood for that matter.

WoodGlue


Pinch rolled is actually an inferior way of gluing compared to vacuum bonding but regardless, they're all just glued with no mechanical fasteners which leaves open a way for delamination or the panel glue to fail.

Azdel is just another thin substrate for the Styrofoam and aluminum framing to be 'glued' to. It matters little as water should never be seen in the wall unless maintenance is neglected. Then, while the material may not give, the glue most certainly will when soaked.

I would only recommend a laminated made camper when your tow vehicle is undersized or under-rated for a similar floorplan, standard travel trailers. Even then, I would find a smaller trailer to avoid the need to have a laminated wall made camper. Most stick and tin are less than 1000 lbs more, offer much more payload, offer much larger water tanks, and interiors that are made of more solid materials. They are also usually cheaper and come with much better appliances due to laminated trailer material cost being higher, despite its inferior strength and longevity (IMO).
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MookieKat
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Uh-oh! I just watched a Coachmen Apex video that said that it was vacuum bonded! that is NG, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjz1-WspVkw

WoodGlue
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Yes. Azdel is not cheap! It's my belief that composites such as Azdel and Compositek (what Evergreen TT's use) are superior products.

Azdel Onboard

WoodGlue
2002 Land Rover Discovery II
2014 Lance 1685 - Loaded - 4 Seasons - Solar - 2 AGM's
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MookieKat
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That is funny! But good to know that it is made here.

So, Woodglue, would you say that trailers made with Azdel are higher quality that those who do not?

WoodGlue
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Hanwa is a Korean Company. Azdel is manufactured in Virginia!

WoodGlue
2002 Land Rover Discovery II
2014 Lance 1685 - Loaded - 4 Seasons - Solar - 2 AGM's
When Hell Freezes Over - I'll Camp There Too!
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MookieKat
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Gosh! You are so knowledgeable! The name "Hanwa" sounds Korean. Is it made in Korea?

WoodGlue
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MookieKat wrote:
Are all Azdels pinch-rolled? The Coachman uses Azdel.

It's suggested by the Hanwa Company, the mfgs of Azdel, that it be pinch rolled. I'm not certain if Coachman does this or not to be honest!

WoodGlue
2002 Land Rover Discovery II
2014 Lance 1685 - Loaded - 4 Seasons - Solar - 2 AGM's
When Hell Freezes Over - I'll Camp There Too!
Lance Travel Trailer Info - Lance 1685 Travel Trailer - Lance 1575 Trailer