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Forbes Magazine spotlights Mexico's auto manufacturing boom

bighatnohorse
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America's Car Capital Will Soon Be Mexico
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mexicoruss
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you would be surprised....
Russ Black
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darbone85737
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mexicoruss wrote:
old guy wrote:
if there are so many jobs there and why are they still trying to go north????


There is an immigration shift happening right now with more and more people (Mexicans and Americans) moving to Mexico full time. For some its opportunity for others its a break in the noise of everything thats going on up there. Net zero migration numbers last year which means more people moved to Mexico from the USA than from Mexico to the USA (2013)

A lot of people who are going North are probably from other countries further south using Mexico as a conduit.


I'd be willing to bet the "zero net migration" numbers don't take into account that migration going north is significantly undocumented whereas migration into Mexico is very well documented. Very few Canadians and Americans are slipping under the fence on their way south

Regardless, anything that brings manufacturing jobs to Mexico is a good thing. Hopefully someday the average Mexican will be able to afford one of the cars made there

Tequila
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I suspect you are right about color marino, that stretch of beach is screaming for development. too bad. 2 years ago, the guy managing it then told me they wanted to develop condos there. I never heard about an airport, though, but it would not surprise me.

We need to scare more people away from Mexico. Not RVers, the all inclusive crowd.

bighatnohorse
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Aside from the DROLL and uninteresting off topic posts.

Mexico is building up it's infrastructure.
They can build vehicles more efficiently than Japan (based on the article)
And that's not rumor.

The rumor around the closure of Color Marino RV park is that investors have plans to build out that entire stretch of coast.
Supposedly, an international airport just south of there is also part of the plan.

Not rumor;
The Baluarte Bridge has opened an interior city to a deep water port.

So...if you think an important part of the message is how many clicks Forbes magazine gets. . .I find it humorous if not a bit sad.

It took the Japanese 50 years to go from making cheap junk to Lexus's and Sony gear.
It took the Chinese 30 years to go from starvation to launching an advanced space program.

Mexico has the most liberal foreign trade policy of any nation. And there are many players in the game.
The smart money isn't on building bigger fences.
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briansue
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old guy wrote:

if there are so many jobs there and why are they still trying to go north????


There is an immigration shift happening right now with more and more people (Mexicans and Americans) moving to Mexico full time. For some its opportunity for others its a break in the noise of everything thats going on up there. Net zero migration numbers last year which means more people moved to Mexico from the USA than from Mexico to the USA (2013)

A lot of people who are going North are probably from other countries further south using Mexico as a conduit.


โ€œold guyโ€ has shown countless times over the years on this forum that he has no knowledge of the realities of Mexico whatsoever.

โ€œold guyโ€ โ€“ back around 2006 then President Bush signed a law that says the US gives shelter to refugees from Central America. The law specifically excludes people from Mexico and Canada. The people in the news being picked up and held are from Honduras, Guatemala, Nicaragua, El Salvador, etc. This is required by the law GWB signed. Mexicans who are caught are sent straight back to Mexico.

Many of the people escaping Central America do stay in Mexico and do not continue on to the US. The Mexican Govโ€™t has been putting a good deal of effort into this migration. Just as the Mexican Govโ€™t declared war in drugs and the cartels and has had the police and army and navy fighting the cartels to stop the flow of drugs into the US since 2006.

People in the US have some crazy idea that there is a way to โ€œseal the borderโ€. No educated person would ever think this is possible. You would have to have our entire military stretched across the entire 1,800+ miles.

The people from Mexico come to the US because they always have. A little over 150 years ago most of Texas, NM, AZ, CA, CO, UT were all part of Mexico and to this day Mexican-Americans make up around 30% of the population of some of these states. The people of Mexico have always migrated back and forth from south to north and north to south for hundreds of years.

Not only are all the car companies moving to Mexico but big companies like John Deere, Caterpillar, Freightliner, Kenworth, Cummins. All of the major car companies have BILLION dollar plus plants in Mexico. Giant agricultural corporations such as Dole and Driscoll and many others are moving many of their agricultural operations to Mexico. We see agriculture growing at an alarming rate all over Mexico. Many thousands of the best agricultural workers in the US have left and headed south again where there are jobs and they can be with their families.

Sure, there is still poverty and people still go north. But the current US president administration has deported more Mexican immigrants than any previous administration FACT!

And on the news today โ€“ Chris Christie โ€“ governor of NJ โ€“ went to Mexico today to try to improve relations with Mexico because he knows Mexicans by over $2 BILLION of products made in NJ where thousands of jobs are created due to these trade relations. Christie and ever other sane person knows something must be done about immigration reform.

Just the tip of the iceberg. Lots more could be said on this topic. But we just want to be able to RV where we want to RV. Why people have to make unpleasant remarks every time they visit this forum is beyond me โ€“ or are they just crazy people?

Tequila
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I was in Aguascalientes in April, Lots of auto plants there already, especially japanese.

BTW Rich, your wife made the cover of RV times magazine, teaching Spanish on that caravan you went on.

Lou_Morris
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FWIW, just a word about the veracity of today's Forbes. A close relative recently left the company after a few years on the revenue side. They are ALL about getting you to click. Editorial integrity long ago was subsumed by the Darwinian requirement to generate clicks and unique views and more views, all leading to more ad revenue. It must be noted that they are one of the few old school mags to actually generate growth in the vicious transition to the digital era. I'm not arguing the right or wrongness of their approach, and I agree that no change meant death, but to call their current output "journalism" is always an iffy proposition.

All of that's to say, if this headline made you click, they got all they wanted. And if you think their brand validates the news they are reporting and you invest your beliefs accordingly, well, proceed with caution.

And sadly, they were just bought by China...
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-28380634
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mexicoruss
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old guy wrote:
if there are so many jobs there and why are they still trying to go north????


There is an immigration shift happening right now with more and more people (Mexicans and Americans) moving to Mexico full time. For some its opportunity for others its a break in the noise of everything thats going on up there. Net zero migration numbers last year which means more people moved to Mexico from the USA than from Mexico to the USA (2013)

A lot of people who are going North are probably from other countries further south using Mexico as a conduit.
Russ Black
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Puerto Penasco, Sonora

old_guy
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if there are so many jobs there and why are they still trying to go north????