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Route Planning Question

the_e-man
Explorer
Explorer
Hi All,

I'd like to find a better way to plan my driving routes. The maps feature on smart phones like iPhone are optimized for the fastest route. That often isn't a good route when you are in an RV. In too many cases, it will lead you down narrow or winding roads that just aren't safe or comfortable.

I tried the Good Sam Trip Planner. It has an option to avoid highways. What I'd like to see is an option to show the easiest route - even if it takes a little longer. In many cases, that might mean using highways or interstate rather than smaller roads.

What do you recommend for finding the best RV driving route?

Thanks.
2018 Grand Design Transcend 28MKS
2010 Ram 2500
Travel Trail Sail - Info on Travel Planning, RV Camping, Outdoor Living
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valhalla360
Nomad III
Nomad III
ferndaleflyer wrote:
Ok. Today I came to Baltimore. While still in NC I saw a friends son going up I 85 also I waved as I passed and he fell in behind, followed me onto I 495, then Rt 50 then MD Rt 3. His GPS had taken him this way but since he was going to upstate NJ he should have stayed on I 95. I got him pointed in the right direction but his travel time increased 2 + hours. A look at a map would have prevented this mistake.


I'm confused...he followed you but it's the GPS' fault?

I suspect, once he started following you, the GPS tried to update his route based on his new location.
Tammy & Mike
Ford F250 V10
2021 Gray Wolf
Gemini Catamaran 34'
Full Time spliting time between boat and RV

ferndaleflyer
Explorer III
Explorer III
Ok. Today I came to Baltimore. While still in NC I saw a friends son going up I 85 also I waved as I passed and he fell in behind, followed me onto I 495, then Rt 50 then MD Rt 3. His GPS had taken him this way but since he was going to upstate NJ he should have stayed on I 95. I got him pointed in the right direction but his travel time increased 2 + hours. A look at a map would have prevented this mistake.

mdcamping
Explorer
Explorer
I use the Garmin for building out trips. I still use AAA maps with yellow highlighted routes as backups. google maps if I'm still not sure. And if I have to I'll post online for travel help.


Mike
2022 F-150 3.5 EcoBoost 4X4 Supercrew GCWR 19,500 157WB
Payload 2476 Maxtow 13,800 3.73 Equalizer 4 Pt Sway Hitch
2017 Jayco Jay Flight 24RBS
Old TV, 07 Toyota Tacoma, Double Cab, Factory Tow Pkg, retired towing at 229K. (Son now owns truck)

Homeless_by_Cho
Explorer
Explorer
I use Street Atlas 13 and it works great. Mine is set up to avoid told roads.

LeRoy
Homeless by Choice
FULL TIMER since 2012
2015 Chevy 3500, Duramax, 4X4, DRW, Crew cab, Long bed
2013 Northern Lite 8'11"Q Sportsman truck camper
2015 Polaris RZR Side by Side

Matt_Colie
Explorer II
Explorer II
I am with both Gizmo's Mom and Valhalla here. What you also have to know is that at one time of my life my name tag had Navigator under the name.
Having paper maps (I still call charts) onboard is essential. When things stop working, all the paper needs to work as intended is that paper, a light source (so you can read it) and a Brain. I do realize that the last is asking a lot of some. If can't work one of those, stick to the blue roads where your cell phone has a good connection.
Like Gizmo's Mon, I am still using one of the old great planners. Mine is a 2015 copy of Street Atlas. It can also be a terrific enroute navigator with no requirement for outside support. All that takes is a GPS puck to make a laptop a tracking GPS with a big screen.
As to planning, I can complete the arrangement of a three week excursion before departure and as the navigator can modify the plan enroute, it is always correct even to the locations for breaks and fuel stops not to mention the location for your EOD - Whatever it is. That can be a Walmart, rest area or a Boondockers Welcome. The planning software is not preferential to anything except what you tell it.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie
A sailor, his bride and their black dogs (one dear dog is waiting for us at the bridge) going to see some dry places that have Geocaches in a coach made the year we married.

austinjenna
Explorer
Explorer
RV Trip wizard for me

2010 F350 CC Lariat 4x4 Short Bed
2011 Crusader 298BDS 5th Wheel
Reese 16K

valhalla360
Nomad III
Nomad III
ferndaleflyer wrote:
And for those that have never been where there is “no service” I suppose the answers above are fine. For me I’ll still use paper. I probably drive recreationally more than most and am also older than most. I am also technically challenged.


Google Maps allows you to download areas for offline use. I do it often when traveling internationally when I may not have cell coverage. If you check online, you can find coverage maps for your cell provider but it's usually pretty obvious when you get far from civilization and major roads, there's a good chance you won't have coverage.

I've actually had GM ask if I want to download the route for offline use. I haven't confirmed but I suspect if a substantial part of the route has minimal cell coverage, it tries to think ahead.

If you really are away from cell coverage a lot, there are full blown offline mapping apps where other than periodic updates, they are intended to operate away from the internet.
Tammy & Mike
Ford F250 V10
2021 Gray Wolf
Gemini Catamaran 34'
Full Time spliting time between boat and RV

Lantley
Nomad
Nomad
I prefer Garmin RV GPS with google maps as a back up.
Between the 2 of them I generally get it right
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rr2254545
Explorer
Explorer
Garmin RV unit it the way to go I am not a semi truck -
2012 Winnebago Journey 36M Cummins 360
2014 Jeep Cherokee
492 Campgrounds,107K miles driven in our Winnebago motor homes and 2360 nights camping since we retired in July 2009, 41 National Parks

ferndaleflyer
Explorer III
Explorer III
And for those that have never been where there is “no service” I suppose the answers above are fine. For me I’ll still use paper. I probably drive recreationally more than most and am also older than most. I am also technically challenged.

MarkTwain
Explorer
Explorer
the e-man wrote:
Hi All,

I'd like to find a better way to plan my driving routes. The maps feature on smart phones like iPhone are optimized for the fastest route. That often isn't a good route when you are in an RV. In too many cases, it will lead you down narrow or winding roads that just aren't safe or comfortable.

I tried the Good Sam Trip Planner. It has an option to avoid highways. What I'd like to see is an option to show the easiest route - even if it takes a little longer. In many cases, that might mean using highways or interstate rather than smaller roads.

What do you recommend for finding the best RV driving route?

Thanks.


I use GARMIN.

GizmosMom
Explorer
Explorer
I still use my Microsoft Streets and Trips planner. It is the 2011 version. I like it because it does allow me to plan traveling the slowest speeds which averages out daily to about 50 mph. I can also tell it that I do not want to travel on Interstates.

There is no longer any MS support for this program I know many of us were upset when they stopped offering it. It has many features that I still use. I just have to go to Google Maps and make sure the roads I plan on driving are still intact!

I also use RV Parky
Marilyn w/ Joe, 2016 Class C Sunseeker 2430 SF, often pulling a Ranger bass boat. Traveling with Trigger
Smudge & Gizmo are waiting at the Rainbow Bridge

valhalla360
Nomad III
Nomad III
paulj wrote:
The big advantage of paper maps is that they give the-big-picture, better so than phone or standalone gps units. State level maps are also good at highlighting major routes, with limited information on minor roads or "scenic" ones.


For big picture, usually pull it up on the laptop.

As you say even detailed paper maps typically have very limited info on minor roads.

If it looks iffy, I'll jump into street view and see what it's really like.
Tammy & Mike
Ford F250 V10
2021 Gray Wolf
Gemini Catamaran 34'
Full Time spliting time between boat and RV

paulj
Explorer II
Explorer II
The big advantage of paper maps is that they give the-big-picture, better so than phone or standalone gps units. State level maps are also good at highlighting major routes, with limited information on minor roads or "scenic" ones.

Years ago for bike ride from Mpls to Chicago, I had to order county level maps from Wisconsin to get info on minor low traffic roads.

And later for an Alaska trip, I made heavy use of detailed guide books. And in the lower 48 I also used AAA books and maps.

Still I have been surprised by paper maps. One straight route in southern Oregon turned out to be heavily washboarded gravel. And in the mid 2000s there was a big news story about a couple lost in the Oregon coast mountains after Thanksgiving. There was a lot of speculation about them using Mapquest, but it turned out they'd used a paper map, where the route was marked aa paved but scenic (BLM and FS).

Sometimes the only clue on paper maps that a route is mountainous is the color of National Forests.

We have a lot more information available to us now than a couple of decades ago.