LT tire options _ Another Poly Carcass Tire to Consider

[Me_Again]

The Bridgestone Duravis R500 HD is a commercial grade LT LRE tire that out weighs most of the other poly carcass entries. It has a closed shoulder tread pattern, which is good for trailers and does not have excessive sipping. Both or one of the LT235/85R16E and/or LT245/75R16E will fit 6K axles depending on center to center spacing.





Also, this tire may be the next set I install on my TV in size LT265/75R16E which weigh in at 53 pounds, which is a lot more that the Transforce HT or LTX M/S2 in the truck size.

Quote for Bridgestone's site:

"All Season | Light/Medium Truck
Designed for commercial highway driving. Heavy-duty tough and torture-tested, Duravis is the tire made to stand up to grueling commercial use. Get the long mileage and high durability you need in the Duravis tire that fits your workload. Downtime on the job can cost you. Duravis is the tire that's built to keep your business going."

Chris

[jims1]

I run the Duravis 700xx on my truck and have had good results.
On the 5'er are Goodyears G's

[Bird_Freak]

Francesca Knowles wrote:

Me Again wrote:

Francesca Knowles wrote:

Never heard of baseball-shaped tires on any trailer-of any size- but if that's what you think you need...go for it!

To get back to the point of my post: I'm talking tread depth design there, as it relates to rolling resistance. Shallower is better for a towed unit.

With a small 4 cylinder tow vehicle I can see why you might see a difference in rolling resistance. But winds in Eastern Washington surely effect your towing more than anything else.

However I am not sure how anyone with a diesel pickup and large 5th wheel could tell the difference between a new Marathon ST with 10/32 or G614 with 12/32 verses a new R500 HD commercial grade tire with 14/32 regarding rolling resistance. The fact that this tire is built as a commercial grade tire would lead me to believe that it is a bit stiff and therefore most likely has a low rolling resistance like the XPS Rib Michelin and R250 Bridgestone which both have steel ply carcass and very low rolling resistance.

It is just hard to understand your level on knowledge on the subject. Are you or the big fellow of yours a tire engineers?

I have towed on both XPS Ribs and Duravis R250's. This last winter I got the best mileage ever going to Arizona and back at 12.4 mpg average for the 1650 miles each way. Maybe the Cummins is now broken in with 100K+ on the clock. Combine weight is around 20,500 pounds and trailer is tall. Wind, speed and height of a 5th wheel effects mileage more than anything else.

There a link to a picture of my 5th wheel and pickup in the original post in this thread.

Chris

Nice fiver and pickup "truck"...maybe some day you can get a real one!

I see you don't understand the concept of rolling resistance and how tire design, width, and tread depth/pattern affects it. I s'pose it's not really necessary for casual towers to have a deep grasp of the subject, but in case you'd like to educate yourself, here's a sort of introductory on the subject:
NHTSA STUDY: Rolling resistance and fuel economy

If you have any questions, feel free to ask...

WOW! great attitude!

[chevor]

I have run those tires for over 350k miles on my truck. My 265/70/17s lasted for 14 months an average of 185k miles wore down to 2/32nds. Looked like this:
I now have a set of 235/85/16s on the truck and do like them much more than the 265s. They wont last as long. I'll still break 100k with the tires. They handle bad weather better and are much more stable it the tires break traction.

[Francesca_Knowl]

Me Again wrote:

Francesca Knowles wrote:

Never heard of baseball-shaped tires on any trailer-of any size- but if that's what you think you need...go for it!

To get back to the point of my post: I'm talking tread depth design there, as it relates to rolling resistance. Shallower is better for a towed unit.

With a small 4 cylinder tow vehicle I can see why you might see a difference in rolling resistance. But winds in Eastern Washington surely effect your towing more than anything else.

However I am not sure how anyone with a diesel pickup and large 5th wheel could tell the difference between a new Marathon ST with 10/32 or G614 with 12/32 verses a new R500 HD commercial grade tire with 14/32 regarding rolling resistance. The fact that this tire is built as a commercial grade tire would lead me to believe that it is a bit stiff and therefore most likely has a low rolling resistance like the XPS Rib Michelin and R250 Bridgestone which both have steel ply carcass and very low rolling resistance.

It is just hard to understand your level on knowledge on the subject. Are you or the big fellow of yours a tire engineers?

I have towed on both XPS Ribs and Duravis R250's. This last winter I got the best mileage ever going to Arizona and back at 12.4 mpg average for the 1650 miles each way. Maybe the Cummins is now broken in with 100K+ on the clock. Combine weight is around 20,500 pounds and trailer is tall. Wind, speed and height of a 5th wheel effects mileage more than anything else.

There a link to a picture of my 5th wheel and pickup in the original post in this thread.

Chris

Nice fiver and pickup "truck"...maybe some day you can get a real one!

I see you don't understand the concept of rolling resistance and how tire design, width, and tread depth/pattern affects it. I s'pose it's not really necessary for casual towers to have a deep grasp of the subject, but in case you'd like to educate yourself, here's a sort of introductory on the subject:
NHTSA STUDY: Rolling resistance and fuel economy

If you have any questions, feel free to ask...

[Me_Again]

FastEagle wrote:

Me Again wrote:

FastEagle wrote:
Lots of need to know information in this Bridgestone Tire owner’s/warranty PDF. Maybe of the most interest is the statement about equal size found on the warranty page #32 and the warning about misapplications on the same page.

Click Here!

FastEagle

This thread says nothing about replacing a tire of a different size! So what is your point Calvin?

Chris

Then maybe you should have clarified what type of tire you’re recommending replacing on 6000# axles. Most come equipped with ST tires.

Look into the reference to see how one of their retailers are marketing your subject tire.

Look Here!


FastEagle

The real question is who is marketing what?

I simply posted info on what appears to be a very good LT tire. Just about all the regular members on this forum know that you go to great lenghts to keep people on cheap ST tires. For some strange reason you appear to hate it when people install better quality LT tires that out live ST tires by 2 or 3 times. Chris

[FastEagle]

Me Again wrote:

FastEagle wrote:
Lots of need to know information in this Bridgestone Tire owner’s/warranty PDF. Maybe of the most interest is the statement about equal size found on the warranty page #32 and the warning about misapplications on the same page.

Click Here!

FastEagle

This thread says nothing about replacing a tire of a different size! So what is your point Calvin?

Chris

Then maybe you should have clarified what type of tire you’re recommending replacing on 6000# axles. Most come equipped with ST tires.

Look into the reference to see how one of their retailers are marketing your subject tire.

Look Here!


FastEagle

[Me_Again]

Francesca Knowles wrote:

Never heard of baseball-shaped tires on any trailer-of any size- but if that's what you think you need...go for it!

To get back to the point of my post: I'm talking tread depth design there, as it relates to rolling resistance. Shallower is better for a towed unit.

With a small 4 cylinder tow vehicle I can see why you might see a difference in rolling resistance. But winds in Eastern Washington surely effect your towing more than anything else.

However I am not sure how anyone with a diesel pickup and large 5th wheel could tell the difference between a new Marathon ST with 10/32 or G614 with 12/32 verses a new R500 HD commercial grade tire with 14/32 regarding rolling resistance. The fact that this tire is built as a commercial grade tire would lead me to believe that it is a bit stiff and therefore most likely has a low rolling resistance like the XPS Rib Michelin and R250 Bridgestone which both have steel ply carcass and very low rolling resistance.

It is just hard to understand your level on knowledge on the subject. Are you or the big fellow of yours a tire engineers?

I have towed on both XPS Ribs and Duravis R250's. This last winter I got the best mileage ever going to Arizona and back at 12.4 mpg average for the 1650 miles each way. Maybe the Cummins is now broken in with 100K+ on the clock. Combine weight is around 20,500 pounds and trailer is tall. Wind, speed and height of a 5th wheel effects mileage more than anything else.

There a link to a picture of my 5th wheel and pickup in the original post in this thread.

Chris

[Francesca_Knowl]

Me Again wrote:

Francesca Knowles wrote:
Those look real good for drive/steer axles- I'd buy them for our truck.

BUT

The tread's too deep for use on a trailer, in my opinion. Bad for rolling resistance!

Wider width is another problem in that department...

And you think a baseball shaped ST has a low rolling resistance????

What do you have on your 5th wheel and how big is it?

Or is this your trailer?


Chris

That's my little trailer- what's your point???? My husband's is bigger than yours, I assure you...;)

Never heard of baseball-shaped tires on any trailer-of any size- but if that's what you think you need...go for it!

To get back to the point of my post: I'm talking tread depth design there, as it relates to rolling resistance. Shallower is better for a towed unit.

[Me_Again]

FastEagle wrote:
Lots of need to know information in this Bridgestone Tire owner’s/warranty PDF. Maybe of the most interest is the statement about equal size found on the warranty page #32 and the warning about misapplications on the same page.

Click Here!

FastEagle

This thread says nothing about replacing a tire of a different size! So what is your point Calvin?

Chris

[Me_Again]

Francesca Knowles wrote:
Those look real good for drive/steer axles- I'd buy them for our truck.

BUT

The tread's too deep for use on a trailer, in my opinion. Bad for rolling resistance!

Wider width is another problem in that department...

And you think a baseball shaped ST has a low rolling resistance????

What do you have on your 5th wheel and how big is it?

Or is this your trailer?



Chris

[Francesca_Knowl]

Those look real good for drive/steer axles- I'd buy them for our truck.

BUT

The tread's too deep for use on a trailer, in my opinion. Bad for rolling resistance!

Wider width is another problem in that department...

[fly-boy]

I am looking at those tires as well-
Going to replace my G614's next week and am looking at other options. Had one blow in the Fall after just 3 years of use and religious care/upkeep.

[FastEagle]

Lots of need to know information in this Bridgestone Tire owner’s/warranty PDF. Maybe of the most interest is the statement about equal size found on the warranty page #32 and the warning about misapplications on the same page.

Click Here!

FastEagle

[Me_Again]

fj12ryder wrote:
Forget my earlier post, I mistakenly thought this was for trailers rather than TV. My fault for not reading the OP correctly. Sorry.

I posted this for trailers, LT can be on trailers or TV. Then include a final statement that I might run this tire on my truck. My trailer came OEM with LT tires. It had Kenda chinese junk OEM, the XPS Ribs for 6.5 years and now Bridgestone Duravis R250's.

The reason to go with LT245/75R16E on a trailer is if your axle spacing does not allow the taller LT235/85R16E which are a popular size for mid size 5th wheels.

Given that people have had issues with Commercial TA outside the recall range of tires, this R500 HD might be a good choice.

Chris