Non-AZ resident, can we register a fiver in AZ? Should we?

[Snowman9000]

We are considering buying a fiver for winter use in AZ, then storing it there in the summer.

Obviously we can register it in IL where we are residents. Does that create a problem when it is left in AZ all year? (Half at a park, half in storage.) Is this a thing that is commonly done and rarely enforced?

What is the annual registration and any other taxes for say a $20K fiver in AZ? I mean annual fees, not the initial sales or use tax on the purchase.

I'm not sure we could even register it in AZ, without having an address there at the time of purchase.

I'm trying to google up these answers but am not having as much luck as I would like.

[Nutinelse2do]

laknox wrote:

Nutinelse2do wrote:

laknox wrote:

crcr wrote:

Nutinelse2do wrote:
... snip ... Arizona is pretty high on the registration fees. They will also want tax if it was not previously registered in Az or California...

The first sentence is correct. The second sentence is not true. If you just purchased your RV or vehicle from an out of state dealer, you will pay AZ sales tax when you register it in AZ, unless you can show you paid sales tax in the state where you purchased it. If you purchased it from a private party in AZ or any other state, you pay NO sales tax when registering it, only registration fee.

If you already own your RV, and bring it into AZ to register it, you will ONLY pay the annual registration fee, NO sales tax will be assessed, no matter what state it was previously registered in. (I have lived in and registered vehicles and RV's in Arizona every which way for over 40 years)

You =could= pay a difference in tax, if you bought where sales tax is lower than AZ. You will NOT get any refund if the AZ tax rate is lower. :M

Lyle

This from laknox ^^^^ is correct. Sorry, should have made that more clear in my original post.

Hey! Let me give you my wife's email so you can tell her I was right...about anything. :B

Lyle

:W crcr is also correct. There is no tax on PP purchases.:C

[laknox]

Nutinelse2do wrote:

laknox wrote:

crcr wrote:

Nutinelse2do wrote:
... snip ... Arizona is pretty high on the registration fees. They will also want tax if it was not previously registered in Az or California...

The first sentence is correct. The second sentence is not true. If you just purchased your RV or vehicle from an out of state dealer, you will pay AZ sales tax when you register it in AZ, unless you can show you paid sales tax in the state where you purchased it. If you purchased it from a private party in AZ or any other state, you pay NO sales tax when registering it, only registration fee.

If you already own your RV, and bring it into AZ to register it, you will ONLY pay the annual registration fee, NO sales tax will be assessed, no matter what state it was previously registered in. (I have lived in and registered vehicles and RV's in Arizona every which way for over 40 years)

You =could= pay a difference in tax, if you bought where sales tax is lower than AZ. You will NOT get any refund if the AZ tax rate is lower. :M

Lyle

This from laknox ^^^^ is correct. Sorry, should have made that more clear in my original post.

Hey! Let me give you my wife's email so you can tell her I was right...about anything. :B

Lyle

[Nutinelse2do]

laknox wrote:

crcr wrote:

Nutinelse2do wrote:
... snip ... Arizona is pretty high on the registration fees. They will also want tax if it was not previously registered in Az or California...

The first sentence is correct. The second sentence is not true. If you just purchased your RV or vehicle from an out of state dealer, you will pay AZ sales tax when you register it in AZ, unless you can show you paid sales tax in the state where you purchased it. If you purchased it from a private party in AZ or any other state, you pay NO sales tax when registering it, only registration fee.

If you already own your RV, and bring it into AZ to register it, you will ONLY pay the annual registration fee, NO sales tax will be assessed, no matter what state it was previously registered in. (I have lived in and registered vehicles and RV's in Arizona every which way for over 40 years)

You =could= pay a difference in tax, if you bought where sales tax is lower than AZ. You will NOT get any refund if the AZ tax rate is lower. :M

Lyle

This from laknox ^^^^ is correct. Sorry, should have made that more clear in my original post.

[laknox]

crcr wrote:

Nutinelse2do wrote:
... snip ... Arizona is pretty high on the registration fees. They will also want tax if it was not previously registered in Az or California...

The first sentence is correct. The second sentence is not true. If you just purchased your RV or vehicle from an out of state dealer, you will pay AZ sales tax when you register it in AZ, unless you can show you paid sales tax in the state where you purchased it. If you purchased it from a private party in AZ or any other state, you pay NO sales tax when registering it, only registration fee.

If you already own your RV, and bring it into AZ to register it, you will ONLY pay the annual registration fee, NO sales tax will be assessed, no matter what state it was previously registered in. (I have lived in and registered vehicles and RV's in Arizona every which way for over 40 years)

You =could= pay a difference in tax, if you bought where sales tax is lower than AZ. You will NOT get any refund if the AZ tax rate is lower. :M

Lyle

[laknox]

minnow wrote:
Need to check the registration and/or personal property taxes in IL. Sounds like those things might be very steep in AZ.

No personal property tax on RVs, though the registration is a "tax" in that it changes yearly, as value decreases. Same with cars. One of the few "flat" rates is for utility trailers < 10k GVW. The law =specifically= excludes RVs. AFAIK, you also don't have to pay sales tax on something you already own in another state, since there is no "sale". If you have the original invoice, it shows you've already paid the tax on it, and are just changing where it's registered. Caveat: check with AZ MVD (not DMV) for definitive answers.

Lyle

[crcr]

Nutinelse2do wrote:
... snip ... Arizona is pretty high on the registration fees. They will also want tax if it was not previously registered in Az or California...

The first sentence is correct. The second sentence is not true. If you just purchased your RV or vehicle from an out of state dealer, you will pay AZ sales tax when you register it in AZ, unless you can show you paid sales tax in the state where you purchased it. If you purchased it from a private party in AZ or any other state, you pay NO sales tax when registering it, only registration fee.

If you already own your RV, and bring it into AZ to register it, you will ONLY pay the annual registration fee, NO sales tax will be assessed, no matter what state it was previously registered in. (I have lived in and registered vehicles and RV's in Arizona every which way for over 40 years)

[bucky]

fj12ryder wrote:

colliehauler wrote:
... A lot of time you get opinions on RV forum instead of fact. ...

In my dealings with the DMV I also sometimes get opinions instead of facts. Just depends on the DMV.

That's a fact, Jack.
Try getting an answer from DMV in NC on weighted tags.

[ol_Bombero-JC]

Snowman9000 wrote:
I see no harm in asking on the forum. While it might not provide the final answer, sometimes someone has first hand knowledge and/or posts the links needed for verification. I wasn't having good luck finding it on my own.

Thanks for the helpful replies so far.

There's "no harm" - but folks on an internet forum are offering opinions, and are *not* "the powers that be".

Next time you get stopped by a cop for an infraction in (whatever state), tell him a guy from one of the other 49 said (on an internet forum) it's OK where he lives- - so it *MUST* be OK there also..:S

However, "Nutinelse2do' covered it very well.

Opinion:
Register it in your home state (your legal residence), store it in AZ for at least 181 days per year.
You are *not* living (residing) in it when it's in storage.

The source that counts:
Ask the AZ DMV.

[Snowman9000]

Registration in Illinois is $50/ year. No personal property tax. From a legal standpoint, I think it should be in Illinois, at least for now.

[minnow]

Need to check the registration and/or personal property taxes in IL. Sounds like those things might be very steep in AZ.

[fj12ryder]

colliehauler wrote:
... A lot of time you get opinions on RV forum instead of fact. ...

In my dealings with the DMV I also sometimes get opinions instead of facts. Just depends on the DMV.

[sayoung]

I see a lot of hi-end. MH's registered in Wyoming or Montana & I know some that have never been out of my area.

[Snowman9000]

I see no harm in asking on the forum. While it might not provide the final answer, sometimes someone has first hand knowledge and/or posts the links needed for verification. I wasn't having good luck finding it on my own.

Thanks for the helpful replies so far.

[colliehauler]

A simple way is to call Arizona DMV and ask. A lot of time you get opinions on RV forum instead of fact. I know in my case (different states involved) I needed to register where my trailer was at or it was a violation. I keep my trailer up North and it will never see Kansas. I called the DMV in MN and talked to my local DMV in KS to make sure I was in compliance. MN sends the renewal to my address in KS.