Outlaw /Funmover A or C? (8' x 5', 2000lbs in garage??)

[HadEnough]

I've been bouncing around between a lot of ideas on how to do our next RV. I think I've finally found our match. However, I have some questions.

1) Can I put a 8' x 5', 2000lbs load into the garage? If no, can I buy aftermarket suspension parts to increase the payload capacity?

I know it can be done because my current truck camper I'm going to sell to change RVs is over spec on the RAM 2500 it is installed on. There are extra springs and airbags installed on the Dana axle along with upgraded rims and tires. These easily handle the huge Arctic Fox truck camper even on a 2500.

Couldn't I do something similar to carry the additional weight in one of these RVs? Especially looking at class C models with the thought of beefing up the suspension?

2) Gas engine. What can I expect from a gas engine these days in terms of MPG fuel efficiency and general longevity? 200,000 miles until dead or? Also what's the cost to repower a V10 Triton with a new engine?

Thanks for any input.

[Bedlam]

You are most likely looking at heavier duty Class 7 or 8 toterhomes with garages on 22.5" wheels to get the capacity and longevity you want. When I was looking to replace my toy hauler with a motorhome pulling a 10k lb enclosed trailer, I only found the largest Super C and Class A pushers with sufficient payload and receiver capacity and they were too big for the areas we visit once you add the trailer to the length - This was not even the type that had a garage with any appreciable payload.

Towing capacity was one of the reasons I went to truck campers - I have upgraded to bigger trucks and campers since I started, but still find that the best combination for me. I have a 20' enclosed trailer that carries my toys or a Chevy Sonic behind my 11.5' triple slide. The 6000 lb camper along with the tongue weight of a trailer typically loaded 6000-8000 lbs required my Class 5 truck. With my current setup I am under 55' overall length and can tow up 12,000 lbs. I have also looked at other options that would allow me more tow capacity while still keeping the same truck and camper.

It sounds like you want to avoid towing something - If that is the case, you really need to look into the toters...

[Y-Guy]

I should clarify that my friend was exceeding the weigh limits of his Class C, he thought by beefing things up he’d be good to go.

If you talk to any Class A owner and they tell you their milage is 10+ they are dreaming.

I would look to the Super C rigs, and see what their weight limits are. I don’t think you’ll find that in a Class A or Class C Toy Hauler.

The rigs you are considering are a bit of an anomaly. Yes, they are a Toy Hauler and they are also a Class A or C motorhome so the owners tend to hang out in those forums too. That said they are just not all that popular, and why you see many have been dropped from production.

Final thought for you to check out, is the approach angle of the ramp. The Class A haulers and even some 5ers have issues where it’s too steep. This seems to be an issue with the street bikes mostly, but might be an issue with a smart car too.

[HadEnough]

So.... Does anyone have any experience with toy haulers on this forum or is it mostly about truck campers?

Ask a question about a truck camper and get several pages of ideas and input. Ask a question about you haulers and nothing?

Been continuing to look at them. Lots of videos of people putting small cars in the garage. Y-guy has left me with some serious fears about these platforms. Anyone have opinions to support what he said or disagree with it?

I'm thinking it will be easier and cheaper for me to modify the frame and suspension of the toy hauler than to do a custom build.

I can have extra plate welded to the frame if necessary to increase the strength. I can get more/better leaf springs. I can upgrade rims and tires if necessary. All way cheaper than a custom build. Anyone ever do these types of things?
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Otherwise I'm looking at getting a blank straight truck and mounting a travel trailer to it so I can very easily handle any weight at all.

Looking to haul close to 100 gallons of water and the 2000lbs car.

Anything? Anyone? Wrong forum?

[HadEnough]

Oh no. Really??

I knew the RVs weren't well built, but to have the frame bend while staying inside the weight limit is terrible.

And 6-8mpg. Wow. Shocked.

I can't believe these things aren't made to last even 200,000 miles.

These are not the answers I was expecting, but I'm glad to hear them. Is everyone unanimous on these remarks? Is this the consensus?

If so, it looks like I'm going to need to do a custom build in order to get what I'm looking for in terms of quality.

I need a good chassis that can handle a 2000lbs load in the garage, plus groceries, plus full water tanks with no less than 50 gallons (hopefully 200 gals), something that gets ok mileage, something that will last for a decade or more of continuous travel.

This doesn't exist, right?

I'm trying to put a smart car inside. I see it's been done online, but have a lot of reservations about frame bending, water capacity and longevity of the RV at the frame level.

[Y-Guy]

If you are talking exceeding the manufacturers specs I'm not sure you'll get much info. It's not just the suspension, tires, etc., its the dynamics of to much weight or if the garage can handle it. I think the payload capacity is usually around 2500# and that number will include your garage weight. That is a big limiting factor.

Most toy hauler trailer style garages can handle 2000#, but sometimes its the ramps that can't handle the weight. There should be weight ratings posted for the garage, but not always listed on the website.

I am pretty sure the Fun Mover line came in the Super C, I think you'd be much better off looking at the specs of one of those vs a standard C Class.

What are you looking to put inside?

As for the V10 depending on the year they are pretty solid. You're looking at 6-8MPG. I am doubtful that they RV itself would last 200,000 miles to be honest.

A friend hauled his toys with a Class C for several years, beefed up the suspension, Banks all that, even a heftier hitch, but none of that changed that the frame itself bent. By the time the damage was seen nothing much he could do.