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Power stabilizing jacks vs Automatic leveling

dpgllg
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We are considering looking at a new 5th wheel tomorrow. I am disabled and really would like automatic leveling but all models that I have looked at are too big / heavy or the price is beyond my budget.

What do power stabilizing jacks offer? I am assuming not much more than my hand crank rear stabilizers other than push a button vs hand crank.

If anyone can recommend a rear living 5th wheel below 36 feet in length and under 13000 pounds that has auto leveling and less than $40000 please let me know.

I was looking at a Grand Design Reflection 27rl but I was surprised to see that it does not have auto leveling

Thanks!

Dave
2013 2500HD Chevy LTZ 6.6 Diesel Ext Cab Long Bed
2017 Grand Design Reflection 27RL 5th Wheel
Dear Wife, plus two Cocker Spaniels and a Standard Poodle
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2naEagle
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Congrats on the new one.
2020 F350 Limited CCSB SRW
2017 North Point 315RLTS
2021 Jayco Greyhawk 29MV

momentum_rv
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dpgllg wrote:
momentum rv wrote:
You are talking about two different types of systems. Auto Level will level the trailer for you. Stabilizer jacks only stabilize after you are level. You will have to use blocks etc. to get level then use stabilizers.

I believe all Reflections now have auto level.

Edit: PS the web site is showing "dealer stock only" so that particular model is being discontinued. If you want one you better get it. And it does have auto level as mentioned above.


Well we went and looked at a used 2015 Grand Design 27RL and a 2017 27RL. The 2015 did NOT have auto leveling but the new 2017 did. it also had a few other nice options that the 2015 did not have. The two big ones were auto leveling and a 3 year warranty. the 2015 had a 30 day warranty. You are correct they discontinued this model and will be coming out with a ultra light smaller unit to replace it. The dealer only had this one left.

We bought the new 2017!!!!

I am so excited!!! Pick it up in about 10 days!


Congrats! Now go join the Grand Design Owners Forum. If you haven't already.
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dpgllg
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momentum rv wrote:
You are talking about two different types of systems. Auto Level will level the trailer for you. Stabilizer jacks only stabilize after you are level. You will have to use blocks etc. to get level then use stabilizers.

I believe all Reflections now have auto level.

Edit: PS the web site is showing "dealer stock only" so that particular model is being discontinued. If you want one you better get it. And it does have auto level as mentioned above.


Well we went and looked at a used 2015 Grand Design 27RL and a 2017 27RL. The 2015 did NOT have auto leveling but the new 2017 did. it also had a few other nice options that the 2015 did not have. The two big ones were auto leveling and a 3 year warranty. the 2015 had a 30 day warranty. You are correct they discontinued this model and will be coming out with a ultra light smaller unit to replace it. The dealer only had this one left.

We bought the new 2017!!!!

I am so excited!!! Pick it up in about 10 days!
2013 2500HD Chevy LTZ 6.6 Diesel Ext Cab Long Bed
2017 Grand Design Reflection 27RL 5th Wheel
Dear Wife, plus two Cocker Spaniels and a Standard Poodle

Hammerboy
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Explorer
For you I would get the auto level as it would make your life easier. I know several people we camp with have it and it is nice. But, I myself wouldn't spend the money on it. I don't find leveling my fifth wheel a chore plus it's just another thing to break. It's kind of like trucks, I don't need or want all the fluff they can put on them these days (other than my diesel that's a necessity ;-).
2019 Chevy crew LTZ 2500 HD Duramax
2017 Wildcat 29rlx fifth wheel

RollandB
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Regarding your specs for length and weight, check out the Arctic Fox 27-5L. Just under 30', the max weight is just obverse your 13,000 spec.

Ours has auto level and I love it. Can't comment on the leveling stab jacks. On ours I get it close to level when pulling or backing in, set chicks, disconnect, then hit the button to level and watch it do its thing
2013 Yukon

2021 Coachmen Spirit 1943RB

momentum_rv
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You are talking about two different types of systems. Auto Level will level the trailer for you. Stabilizer jacks only stabilize after you are level. You will have to use blocks etc. to get level then use stabilizers.

I believe all Reflections now have auto level.

Edit: PS the web site is showing "dealer stock only" so that particular model is being discontinued. If you want one you better get it. And it does have auto level as mentioned above.
2015 Grand Design Momentum 385TH
2015 Ford F-350 DRW 4x4 Lariat

2naEagle
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stickdog wrote:
2naEagle wrote:
Looking at the GD website looks like One Touch Auto Leveling is a mandatory option.

I like my auto leveling. With you being disabled it will save you a lot of walking around the trailer.


How can they claim it's an option when it's mandatory?


Kind of like getting something free just pay shipping and handling :?
2020 F350 Limited CCSB SRW
2017 North Point 315RLTS
2021 Jayco Greyhawk 29MV

stickdog
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2naEagle wrote:
Looking at the GD website looks like One Touch Auto Leveling is a mandatory option.

I like my auto leveling. With you being disabled it will save you a lot of walking around the trailer.


How can they claim it's an option when it's mandatory?
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buc1980
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filrupmark wrote:
You can have auto leveling added to any trailer you like.
But that will be a expensive upgrade($4500).
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filrupmark
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You can have auto leveling added to any trailer you like.
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2naEagle
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Looking at the GD website looks like One Touch Auto Leveling is a mandatory option.

I like my auto leveling. With you being disabled it will save you a lot of walking around the trailer.
2020 F350 Limited CCSB SRW
2017 North Point 315RLTS
2021 Jayco Greyhawk 29MV

sayoung
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I won't have another rv without auto-level & slide toppers period.