Swivel Wheels

[Ropdoc]

Hello all, I found this site and was wondering if anyone has used this? I have a Polaris RZR and wish to take it with me. But we sold our Toyhauler for a 5th wheel camper. I would need to have a hitch installed. But wanted to know if it was worth it.

http://www.cruiserlift.com/swivelwheel58.html :h

Thank you,
Dave

[chiefneon]

Ropdoc wrote:

chiefneon wrote:
Howdy! Take a look at Idaho Tote. Chiefneon

I like that allot. Does it affect how the 5th wheel handles?

Howdy!

No, it did not effect the the towing of the 5er. I never really new it was back there as we use a MDT to tow with. The weight of the Yamaha Rhino and afterwards the Smart car also did not effect the pin weight as they were loaded with the weight of them centered over the axle of the tote. As stated you will pay more for a Idaho Tote but you get what you pay for.

Happy Trails"
Chiefnoen

[MPI_Mallard]

I was going to build a swivel wheel trailer, actually I bought everything but the axles but after speaking to the Georgia and Florida DOT and was told that any platform temporarily or permanently attached that has wheels under it will be considered a second trailer period! So I returned the parts and bought a golf cart to leave on my site in Florida, too bad though, I thought it was a real slick idea!

[Ropdoc]

chiefneon wrote:
Howdy! Take a look at Idaho Tote. Chiefneon

I like that allot. Does it affect how the 5th wheel handles?

[ol_Bombero-JC]

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Apparently the OP is in California.

Lots of replies.

*NONE* appear to be from California.

OP: Suggest you ask the California Highway Patrol..:W

*NOT* your local PD, *NOT* the DMV,
and for sure *NOT* on an Internet forum..:(

May save you a lot of grief - and dollars!

IMO - in CA, you have a double tow.

~

[Winged_One]

BB_TX wrote:
Seems to be varying opinions on whether it is a trailer or an extension to the trailer it is connected to. Could be an interpretation problem in states that do not allow towing a second trailer. But have not read where anyone has been stopped for it. But then you don't see very many of them either.

But keep in mind it does add considerable tail swing to the trailer. Be careful you don't scrape someone on a turn if you choose to try it.

Good post. No problems west of Ohio.

I use a 58DW. Went about 5000 miles so far with it. No issues. Still on same tires that I put on. Saved my bacon several times when I got in a fix and had to back up.

Your problem is, depending on your model, you would probably be way over weight for the Swivelwheel. The Idaho Tote appears to be able to carry more weight, though I can't find a carrying capacity anywhere on their page. Course, it costs 3 times as much too.

Good luck! I like mine!

[fj12ryder]

Been in North Carolina a ton of times with my Smart Trailer and was never stopped, talked to, or even noticed that I could tell. YMMV.

[adrain]

Had one ,did not like it could not keep tires on it

[JEBar]

I have one in the back yard which has never provided the level of service advertised .... I learned the hard way that if the tires aren't chosen with flotation in mind, problems can occur .... specifically when you start to back up and the wheels swivel, they can sink in the gravel .... I've had one break off .... in addition, in NC they are considered to be a second trailer .... if a cop decides to issue a ticket, those who want to fight it would have an opportunity to do so .... knowing what I know now and I was in the market, I'd go with the aforementioned Idaho Tote .... I like its wheel design and from what I've seen is the heaviest duty one on the market

Jim

[laknox]

fj12ryder wrote:
IMO the swivel wheel trailer would have to weigh well over a ton to do something like that.

I'd have to see the 5th wheel and swivel-wheel trailer before I'd buy into that story. My Smart Trailer weighed 1200 lbs. and when hooked up it took 40 lbs. off the pin weight.

I don't know what brand swivel-wheel it was or the size of the FW; just relaying what the owner of the hitch shop that built the double-receiver setup told me, and that it scared the cr@p outta the FW owner. Just passing on something to think about, is all. And, yes, that did surprise me, but I did not comment.

Lyle

[Dufus]

I have a 58DW swivel wheel and it has served me very well. You can see a picture in my profile. I like the fact I can back it up.

[ricatic]

Francesca Knowles wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:

poncho62 wrote:
Pretty sure its considered a trailer. Things like that tend to bounce a lot and you would want to keep a good eye on the wheel bearings

I've seen lots of debate over this issue. I've even seen a manufacturer (can't remember which) state that it doesn't qualify as a trailer but they never showed official documentation.

There's a single bit of (supposed) State-of-Idaho documentation floating around specific only to the Idaho Tote. Link to letter

But it uses the language "bolted/permanently attached to RV" in its assertion that the unit is simply an add-on. Dunno how a receiver-type arrangement would be perceived, even there.

use bolts instead of a pin and clip through the receiver mount...now it is bolted and permanent...

I know there has been considerable debate about whether or not this type of appurtenance is a trailer...but if the unit is welded or bolted in more than one location...it fit's no ones definition of a "trailer" except some dopey DOT officer...I would fight any ticket received under those circumstances...

Regards

[fj12ryder]

IMO the swivel wheel trailer would have to weigh well over a ton to do something like that.

I'd have to see the 5th wheel and swivel-wheel trailer before I'd buy into that story. My Smart Trailer weighed 1200 lbs. and when hooked up it took 40 lbs. off the pin weight.

[laknox]

I had some work done on my FW last week, and was talking to the shop owner about these. He did say that he knew of at least one instance where someone put a swivel-wheel carrier on his FW and it =unweighted= the pin to the point where the FW started wandering at about 50-55 mph; enough so that the guy had to stop and go home. Also, they =are= specifically considered trailers in some states. Have seen a few posts with local statutes posted.

Lyle

[Francesca_Knowl]

valhalla360 wrote:

poncho62 wrote:
Pretty sure its considered a trailer. Things like that tend to bounce a lot and you would want to keep a good eye on the wheel bearings

I've seen lots of debate over this issue. I've even seen a manufacturer (can't remember which) state that it doesn't qualify as a trailer but they never showed official documentation.

There's a single bit of (supposed) State-of-Idaho documentation floating around specific only to the Idaho Tote. Link to letter

But it uses the language "bolted/permanently attached to RV" in its assertion that the unit is simply an add-on. Dunno how a receiver-type arrangement would be perceived, even there.