Welding outlet with 50 amp rv outlet

[Wiley123]

I am out of room for extra breakers in my breaker box. I have a 220 3 wire outlet for my welder in the garage. Can I branch off of that outlet and install a 4 wire rv outlet if I run a separate neutral wire back to breaker panel? Would like to have both outlets and no adapters and I will not be using them simultaneously.

[BB_TX]

Wiley123 wrote:
BB thanks for the suggestion, your right I could just do it that way and then all would be kosher.

Actually you can forget fabbing an adapter. Someone has already done it for you. Try this.

14-50P to 6-50R

[Wiley123]

BB thanks for the suggestion, your right I could just do it that way and then all would be kosher.

[garym114]

Go to http://www.myrv.us/electric/

select welder service on the left to see options

[theoldwizard1]

Chris Bryant wrote:
I think you could run a neutral and install a sub panel feeding the outlets.

IANALE - I believe codes requires the neutral conductor to be INSIDE that same cable or conduit as the other conductors.

[byronlj]

x3 on BB-TX. I do that at my well site.

[time2roll]

+1 for the added neutral and a 14-50 plug on the welder.

[kaydeejay]

BB_TX wrote:
To meet code you could change the outlet to a 4 wire outlet with neutral for the RV. Then make yourself a short custom dogbone 4 wire to 3 wire adapter for when you want to use the welder. That ensures you could never use both at the same time and the adapter would really be no big deal. Just leave it attached to the welder. Unplug one and plug in the other.

That is the correct solution, otherwise you might have an interesting discussion with your insurance company if it ever caused a fire!!

[BB_TX]

To meet code you could change the outlet to a 4 wire outlet with neutral for the RV. Then make yourself a short custom dogbone 4 wire to 3 wire adapter for when you want to use the welder. That ensures you could never use both at the same time and the adapter would really be no big deal. Just leave it attached to the welder. Unplug one and plug in the other.

[Chris_Bryant]

I think you could run a neutral and install a sub panel feeding the outlets.

[Wiley123]

Besides not being to code I can’t see it causing any other problems as far as I understand so long as all connections are properly made.

[Wiley123]

thanks guys, I know it won’t be up to code but just wanted to get another opinion.

[rhochnadel]

Not per code!

[Lwiddis]

And your qualifications to do all this re-wiring to code are?

[theoldwizard1]

Wiley123 wrote:
I am out of room for extra breakers in my breaker box. I have a 220 3 wire outlet for my welder in the garage. Can I branch off of that outlet and install a 4 wire rv outlet if I run a separate neutral wire back to breaker panel?

Not NEC compliant, but ...

much better than using the ground as neutral.