CumminsDriver wrote:
In order to get the Non Commercial A license in California you must take the written test and pass, schedule an appointment at one of the Commercial DMV Test Facilities for the Non Commercial A driving test which includes a pre-trip inspection, skills test, and a driving test with a 5th wheel exceeding 15,000 GVWR or travel trailer exceeding 10,000 GVWR and pass all the tests. They will not test you with a 5th wheel that has less than 15k GVWR or travel trailer less than 10,000 GVWR. You must also fill out the medical questionnaire and have it on file with the DMV. If you do not have a valid medical questionnaire on file your drivers license reverts back to the basic Class C license.
The front of my Non Commercial A license says Class AM1. The back says "Restrictions: 71-CL. May only tow non-CDL single trlrs."
Rich
You are correct - EXCEPT you are not taking Murphy's Law into consideration - - regarding the CA DMV.
When I went to "update" my Class C to include "Restriction 41" for
5th wheels between 10K and 15 k, the DMV had no clue what it was.
Gal at the Info Desk said there was no such thing - until I showed her the CA DL info for it.
Go to the window as directed - the test they gave me was for MHs. Told them that's incorrect, and they finally got it right - the 25 question test for restriction 41.
Easy test - when it was completed and the clerk scored my 100%, he was typing up my new temp license - and said something like, "Oh you need to bring in your medical certification".
At that point, I looked at what he was about to issue me - A Non-Commercial Class A license!!
I probably should have let him do that, brought in a med cert, and had a "no driving test" Class A Non Com DL.
However, I told him I did NOT want a Non-commercial Class A - explained (again) what an Endorsement 41 was.
(I had a Commercial DL in the past - didn't need that one anymore either)
He then tore up the Temp - and got it right.
BUT - the DMV did not error with/for Pop - most likely, he does
NOT have a NON-Commercial Class A.
IF he applied for a restriction 41, the back of his
Driver's License will state:
"Restrictions: 41-Class A restricted to operating 5th wheel travel trailer between 10,000 and 15,000 lbs GVWR".
Note -
41-Class A - etc.
BTW - If he wasn't due for renewal (of his Class C) within 6 months, there is no vision test (or other test/s) required.
However, they should have had him take the 25 question test.
Most likely - they weren't aware of the test and/or interpreted the update rules as: "No other tests required"..:h
No big deal - the 25 Q test could be passed by a skateboarder!..:B
BTW - Most DMV tests are pretty much "slam dunk".
However, if you take the written to renew your M1 (Motorcycle) - be sure to read the DMV handbook - whoever wrote the test has never been on two wheels! Answer by what *it* (the book) says regarding "situations", not what you know from riding experience..:W
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