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Whats Your Real Weights? Truck and Trailer. The Real Deal

juzplanekrazy
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I don’t know if it’s been done before or not but I was thinking about keeping a running list of real truck weights by year and type, and trailer weights by brand, size and what the total combined weight is of each guys rig. I was hoping the info would be a help for guys wondering about what the real weights are for a certain type of truck and to keep track of the more popular brand 5th wheel trailers. Another thing that will come out of it will be to see just how many guys really know what they are towing and if they know what their weight capacities are.
I’m sure it will take some time to compile a list and it will grow as guys add there info but I’m hoping it will help the newer guys in the long run to be directed back over to this thread in the future.
I’ll keep the TV lists to mainly the big 3 and from ¾ ton and up and I’ll try to keep the 5ers in a group by real GVW, length, and then manufacture. Any ideas are welcome as long as it makes things easier. And only real information can be given, so no guessing allowed. Only guys that have scaled there rigs or are totally certain of the weights.
Let’s see if I can keep the format real simple to type down and that will make it simpler for guys to refer back to and to keep track of.
Here we go……

TV - 2006 Dodge Mega Cab 3500 4x4, real scaled weight with full fuel, hitch, DH-DW and misc. gear = 7,500lbs. TV GVWR is 10,200lbs
5ver – KZ New Vision TH 38ft 14,500lbs loaded GVW. GVWR is 18,000lbs
Normal running TV & TH GCW weight= 22,500lbs, TV GCWR is 23,000lbs
Real Wet Pin Weight=2,950lbs
2021 Dodge Ram Longhorn 4x4 Dually
2019 KZ Durango Gold 371
B & W Companion 25K
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allen8106
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juzplanekrazy wrote:
I don’t know if it’s been done before or not but I was thinking about keeping a running list of real truck weights by year and type, and trailer weights by brand, size and what the total combined weight is of each guys rig. I was hoping the info would be a help for guys wondering about what the real weights are for a certain type of truck and to keep track of the more popular brand 5th wheel trailers. Another thing that will come out of it will be to see just how many guys really know what they are towing and if they know what their weight capacities are.
I’m sure it will take some time to compile a list and it will grow as guys add there info but I’m hoping it will help the newer guys in the long run to be directed back over to this thread in the future.
I’ll keep the TV lists to mainly the big 3 and from ¾ ton and up and I’ll try to keep the 5ers in a group by real GVW, length, and then manufacture. Any ideas are welcome as long as it makes things easier. And only real information can be given, so no guessing allowed. Only guys that have scaled there rigs or are totally certain of the weights.
Let’s see if I can keep the format real simple to type down and that will make it simpler for guys to refer back to and to keep track of.
Here we go……

TV - 2006 Dodge Mega Cab 3500 4x4, real scaled weight with full fuel, hitch, DH-DW and misc. gear = 7,500lbs. TV GVWR is 10,200lbs
5ver – KZ New Vision TH 38ft 14,500lbs loaded GVW. GVWR is 18,000lbs
Normal running TV & TH GCW weight= 22,500lbs, TV GCWR is 23,000lbs
Real Wet Pin Weight=2,950lbs


2009 GMC 2500HD = 5,700, with my fat butt on board!!
2010 Jayco Eagle Superlite 31.5RLDS = 9,960, mostly loaded.
2010 Eagle Super Lite 315RLDS
2018 GMC Sierra 3500HD 6.6L Duramax

2010 Nights 45
2011 Nights 70
2012 Nights 144
2013 Nights 46
2014 Nights 49
2015 Nights 57
2016 Nights 73
2017 Nights 40
2018 Nights 56
2019 Nights 76
2020 Nights 68

OktsCamp
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I weighed my 2011 Ford F-350 Crew Cab 4x4 Lariat short box with 6.7L diesel tonight. Also on the truck was an arrow cab height canopy and a few things in the box. Myself (230lbs) on board, and about 3/4 tank of fuel. Front Axle 4,840lbs. Rear axle 3,388lbs. Total 8,228lbs. GVWR is 11,500lbs. Looking good for my 5'er.

Mike
2008 Fleetwood Bounder 38P, 6.8L V10
2002 Honda CRV, 5 spd manual, Blue Ox & Brake Buddy

DW-gray
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Cdnsailor wrote:
Hi everyone,

Here is what I have and hoping that someone can explain or send a link to see if I am ok for towing a fifth wheel

2009 Silverado, Crew Cab, Regular Box, 6.6L Diesel, 3.73 Axle Ratio

2008 Corsair 34RLTS,
Tongue:1046 KG
Cargo: 990KG
GVWR: 7033KG

Thanks


The best place to get your answer is at Fifth Wheel St.
Dave Gray

RV Safety Educator & Consultant

08 Dodge Ram 3500 4X4, Dually, 6.7L Diesel, 09 Heartland Cyclone 4012

DW-gray
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sirdrakejr wrote:
And the GVCW rating is?

Frank


If he has the 4.10 axle ratio, his truck's GCWR should be 30,000 pounds.
Dave Gray

RV Safety Educator & Consultant

08 Dodge Ram 3500 4X4, Dually, 6.7L Diesel, 09 Heartland Cyclone 4012

Cdnsailor
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Cdnsailor wrote:
Hi everyone,

Here is what I have and hoping that someone can explain or send a link to see if I am ok for towing a fifth wheel

2009 Silverado, Crew Cab, Regular Box, 6.6L Diesel, 3.73 Axle Ratio

2008 Corsair 34RLTS,
Tongue:1046 KG
Cargo: 990KG
GVWR: 7033KG

Thanks


Sorry, my truck is a 2500HD 3/4 Ton, 4 wheel drive

Tongue: 2301 lbs
Cargo: 2178 lbs
GVWR: 15472 lbs

sirdrakejr
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What is that in pounds? I cannot believe a 34 foot 5th wheel to be very light. Is the truck a dually and/or a 1T truck?
Frank
2011 Palomino Maverick 1000SLLB on a 2004 Dodge Quadcab CTD Ram3500 SRW long bed equipped with Timbren springs, Stable Load bump stops, Rickson 19.5" wheels/"G" range tires and a Helwig "Big Wig" rear anti sway bar.

Cdnsailor
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Hi everyone,

Here is what I have and hoping that someone can explain or send a link to see if I am ok for towing a fifth wheel

2009 Silverado, Crew Cab, Regular Box, 6.6L Diesel, 3.73 Axle Ratio

2008 Corsair 34RLTS,
Tongue:1046 KG
Cargo: 990KG
GVWR: 7033KG

Thanks

sirdrakejr
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And the GVCW rating is?

Frank
2011 Palomino Maverick 1000SLLB on a 2004 Dodge Quadcab CTD Ram3500 SRW long bed equipped with Timbren springs, Stable Load bump stops, Rickson 19.5" wheels/"G" range tires and a Helwig "Big Wig" rear anti sway bar.

YnotTurbo
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I have a lot of weight to pull. Only a little slow off the start. Once I get rolling, it's smooth sailing. Electric/hydraulic disc brakes and exhaust brake help slow the Suite down. Total weight on CAT scale with wife, dogs and food etc. 27,540 lb. total combined weight..
Navy Chief (Ret.) Still working. 2019 Ford F350 Lariat, 4:10 Geared and 935 lbs. of Grunt..., 2011 Mobile Suites Lexington

joebedford
Nomad II
Nomad II
5er is Voltage 3950 unloaded 16,500 loaded 19,000 (right at GVWR)
Tow is 2011 Chev weighs 8300 with hitch and 1/2 tank fuel
Pin weight 3820 but will be less when trailer is loaded (toy hauler)

To other Voltage poster: traded my '04 Ram because it couldn't handle this trailer on hills.

Tranquilty1
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I know it's been said many times before, but weighing our rigs periodically and whenever we make a major modification is just good practice. I've read many blogs where folks try to stretch the tow limits of their vehicels. In my humble opinion it's just not good practice. It's not good for safety sake or the wear of our investments. For about $10 anyone can pull onto a CAT scale and find out our true weight.

Laredo 266rl 5'er, F250 6.2l, extended cab, 4.3 ratio, 5th hitch
Major modifications include full solar (about 1,100lbs of batteries, panels, and accesseries), washer/dryer.

Front axle 3,600lbs, drive axle (with rv hitched) 5,760lbs, trailer axle 7,640lbs, gross weight 17,000lbs. My F250 is rated at a gross of 22,000lbs, 5th wheel tow of 15,500lbs, gross rear axle of 6,200lbs.

I know I'm fine and I know I need to be carefull about any added load on the F250 rear axle. I hope this info helps ya. Safe Driving!

RaviAuto
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Rules governing the maximum size and weight of vehicles differ from one U.S. state to another. However, since the majority of hauling is done on the interstate system, the vast majority of trucks and trailers made in the U.S. are built to the specifications of the Department of Transportation (DOT), which governs the use of the interstate system. The DOT has established these vehicle limits: 102 inches (2.6 m) wide, 13.5 feet (4.1 m) feet in height, and 80,000 pounds (36,000 kg) gross weight.

DW-gray
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SmittysRV wrote:
I have a strange feeling im over the 20K GCWR when im loaded down with the all the toys, gear and family......


The best way to know for sure if you are overweight, consider visiting Fifth Wheel St..
Dave Gray

RV Safety Educator & Consultant

08 Dodge Ram 3500 4X4, Dually, 6.7L Diesel, 09 Heartland Cyclone 4012

SmittysRV
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My TV is a 2002 Ford F350 longbed with a 7.3 liter Diesel. I tow a 295Vortex Toy Hauler 5th wheel (measures 32'). I have only weighed the rig dry, this is what i got. The truck had 1/4 tank of fuel and the hauler had numerous food, bedding and blankets inside.

STEER AXLE 4740 LBS
DRIVE AXLE 5360 LBS
TRLR AXLE 8720 LBS
GROSS WEIGHT 18820 LBS

I have a strange feeling im over the 20K GCWR when im loaded down with the all the toys, gear and family......

DW-gray
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The_Roberson's wrote:
I was reading all this on "real weights? Truck and trailer". I have been pulling 5ers for a very long time, and this topic had me go and weight my truck and trailer on the CAT scales before our last camping excursion and this is what I found. My truck is a 2008 RC 3/4 Silverado with a 6.0 and a 3.73 rear end. My trucks FT Max axle weight is 4200 lbs. and the RR Max are 6084 with a Max GVWR of 9200 lbs & a GCWR of 16,000 lbs. I pull a 2011 MK2900 Sundance thats dry weight is 9200 lbs.

I went to the scales and here are the results with me in the cab and everything loaded in the 5er to last 2 weeks with 47 gals of water, 1 half full and 1 full 30 lb tanks of LP.

STEER AXLE 3700 LBS
DRIVE AXLE 5220 LBS
TRLR AXLE 8260 LBS
GROSS WEIGHT 17180 LBS


That means that I am over 1180 lbs on my GCWR for my truck. All the other numbers were good. It pulls like a dream and is real stable. My truck is not under an warranty any more. Just curious if you think I am going to damage something pulling a little over 1K more than recommended?

Thanks!

I re-posted this as a question and not for infomation. Sorry!



As long as you feel comfortable with your rig's towing and stopping, I wouldn't be concerned at all. If you have ever felt unsafe towing your trailer, then you may consider a bigger truck or lighten your load.

Drive safely.
Dave Gray

RV Safety Educator & Consultant

08 Dodge Ram 3500 4X4, Dually, 6.7L Diesel, 09 Heartland Cyclone 4012