2001 Monaco Dynasty refrig issue..

[nancyjerry]

We are in a semi unlevel site and no hookups. . The refrig (running on propane) has lost power a couple of times. We are wondering if our coach has an auto shut off or if we are too unlevel or do we have a legit refrig problem?
Our propane level says 1/4. - 1/2 tank.

[dougrainer]

nancyjerry wrote:
If it clears up anything. The power indicator light on the control panel on the front of the fridge goes off. Open door and there is no power to interior light. 24-48 hours later control panel light and interior light comes on, refer cools, freezer makes ice, for 36-48 hours. We have turned it off and will get mobile service to come out and check it. Batteries are not the issue.

Sure sounds like it is in that 48 to 54 hour shut down defrost mode. Have you tried to check after 2 to 3 hours after you notice it is shut OFF? But, the front LED indicator light should stay on in that mode. What needs checked is, when it shuts down, you need the 12 volt power TO the back of the refer checked. See if you still have 12 volt supply power and if so, does it go thru the recall box. Also, I wonder if the Flue cover SNAP DISC is still installed. If so, it should be removed. That was the original overheat sensor and when the recall box was installed, that snap disc was either removed or bypassed. Doug

[nancyjerry]

If it clears up anything. The power indicator light on the control panel on the front of the fridge goes off. Open door and there is no power to interior light. 24-48 hours later control panel light and interior light comes on, refer cools, freezer makes ice, for 36-48 hours. We have turned it off and will get mobile service to come out and check it. Batteries are not the issue.

[barmcd]

LOL. Let me buy you a beer the next time I'm in DFW.

[dougrainer]

barmcd wrote:

dougrainer wrote:

barmcd wrote:

dougrainer wrote:

barmcd wrote:

dougrainer wrote:
No refer has an Auto shut off if unlevel. Doug

I had a Dometic in my 5th wheel that did. The fridge has to be pretty level for the chemical coolant to circulate correctly. I just assumed all chemical fridges did.

Sorry, but there is NO auto shut off device. IF out of level, the refer will NOT cool, but will still heat up and ruin the Cooling Unit. I have 37 years as a Tech(still current) and I KNOW what kind of controls and systems they have had for at least 40 years. Doug

Auto shutoff may be the wrong word to use, but the trouble light came on and the unit wouldn't cool. Same effect.

That is a CHECK light. That ONLY comes ON when the LP flame fails to light. When the LP fails to light, it will NOT cool. Has nothing to do with unlevel or any other parameter. Trust me, you have your information wrong. Doug

Have it your way Doug.

I WILL have it MY WAY as you do not know what you are talking about. PERIOD. People like you that are so sure of themselves when they have NO CLUE is what gets urban legends going. What will happen is some person will read this and think you know what you are talking about and then tell people Dometic RV Refers have a unlevel auto shut off. Doug.

[barmcd]

dougrainer wrote:

barmcd wrote:

dougrainer wrote:

barmcd wrote:

dougrainer wrote:
No refer has an Auto shut off if unlevel. Doug

I had a Dometic in my 5th wheel that did. The fridge has to be pretty level for the chemical coolant to circulate correctly. I just assumed all chemical fridges did.

Sorry, but there is NO auto shut off device. IF out of level, the refer will NOT cool, but will still heat up and ruin the Cooling Unit. I have 37 years as a Tech(still current) and I KNOW what kind of controls and systems they have had for at least 40 years. Doug

Auto shutoff may be the wrong word to use, but the trouble light came on and the unit wouldn't cool. Same effect.

That is a CHECK light. That ONLY comes ON when the LP flame fails to light. When the LP fails to light, it will NOT cool. Has nothing to do with unlevel or any other parameter. Trust me, you have your information wrong. Doug

Have it your way Doug.

[dougrainer]

barmcd wrote:

dougrainer wrote:

barmcd wrote:

dougrainer wrote:
No refer has an Auto shut off if unlevel. Doug

I had a Dometic in my 5th wheel that did. The fridge has to be pretty level for the chemical coolant to circulate correctly. I just assumed all chemical fridges did.

Sorry, but there is NO auto shut off device. IF out of level, the refer will NOT cool, but will still heat up and ruin the Cooling Unit. I have 37 years as a Tech(still current) and I KNOW what kind of controls and systems they have had for at least 40 years. Doug

Auto shutoff may be the wrong word to use, but the trouble light came on and the unit wouldn't cool. Same effect.

That is a CHECK light. That ONLY comes ON when the LP flame fails to light. When the LP fails to light, it will NOT cool. Has nothing to do with unlevel or any other parameter. Trust me, you have your information wrong. Doug

[barmcd]

dougrainer wrote:

barmcd wrote:

dougrainer wrote:
No refer has an Auto shut off if unlevel. Doug

I had a Dometic in my 5th wheel that did. The fridge has to be pretty level for the chemical coolant to circulate correctly. I just assumed all chemical fridges did.

Sorry, but there is NO auto shut off device. IF out of level, the refer will NOT cool, but will still heat up and ruin the Cooling Unit. I have 37 years as a Tech(still current) and I KNOW what kind of controls and systems they have had for at least 40 years. Doug

Auto shutoff may be the wrong word to use, but the trouble light came on and the unit wouldn't cool. Same effect.

[dougrainer]

barmcd wrote:

dougrainer wrote:
No refer has an Auto shut off if unlevel. Doug

I had a Dometic in my 5th wheel that did. The fridge has to be pretty level for the chemical coolant to circulate correctly. I just assumed all chemical fridges did.

Sorry, but there is NO auto shut off device. IF out of level, the refer will NOT cool, but will still heat up and ruin the Cooling Unit. I have 37 years as a Tech(still current) and I KNOW what kind of controls and systems they have had for at least 40 years. Doug

[barmcd]

dougrainer wrote:
No refer has an Auto shut off if unlevel. Doug

I had a Dometic in my 5th wheel that did. The fridge has to be pretty level for the chemical coolant to circulate correctly. I just assumed all chemical fridges did.

[dougrainer]

nancyjerry wrote:
Norcoll 1200 L R M I is refrig model.

When you state lost power. EXPLAIN that. What does it do you notice it has lost power. HOW do you get the power to come back on? IF the recall box has tripped, it will NOT reset itself. You will lose power until you manually reset it. There are 2 versions of the 1200 recall box wiring. OLDER wiring the complete power to the refer is shut down until you reset the recall box. Newer Recall installs you get a LI OP code on the inside LED panel and the refer will not function until the recall box is manually set. IF you have an older Norcold and the Technician installing the recall did NOT do it correctly----He did NOT remove the Thermal disc on the burner flue outer housing-- Then THAT disc may cause intermittent power fail. That disc must be removed when the recall kit is installed. Now, 1200 models have a 48 to 54 hour auto defrost cycle. IF the refer is left on continuously and never turned on and off in that 48 to 54 hour cycle, the refer will shut down for 2 hours every 48 to 54 hours to allow the evap fins to thaw out. Is this possible when you state it loses power occasionally? Doug

[Cloud_Dancer]

This model of Norcold called for the installation of a safety device to be installed. It's on a recall list. Now, if a better version that's offered by a separate supplier, brand ARP, was installed, it could possibly explain this problem.

This would explain a NORCOLD 1200 that shuts off, and comes back on later.

This is from the ARP website:

ARPrv

Your RV Refrigerator boiler operates at about 350 degrees all the time, but even a brief time off-level, like driving up a hill, can send that temperature sky-rocketing. Events like this produced a lot of thermal stress in the fridge boiler, stress that causes the metal to fatigue and the anti-corrosion chemicals in the coolant to deteriorate leading to fridge failure and perhaps even causing an RV fire. This is the reason for Dometic and Norcold recalls. The ARP Control can monitor the boiler temperature and automatically shut down the boiler if temperatures begin to climb out of normal range. Best of all, ARP continues to monitor and re-starts the fridge once it cools down again, so that your food doesn't spoil. And all without any effort by you!

[larry_cad]

nancyjerry wrote:
Norcoll 1200 L R M I is refrig model.

Norcold 1200LRIM is notorious for bad cooling unit and is very sensitive to proper leveling, although Norcold says if you can comfortably walk in the coach, the frig should be ok. I had one in my coach and the cooling unit failed twice.

Can you please give us more info on what EXACTLY your problem is? As Doug commented, there is no auto shut off. If the problem is important, take some time to describe the situation in detail. Then you will get more meaningful responses.

[nancyjerry]

Norcoll 1200 L R M I is refrig model.

[nancyjerry]

Thanks. Let me get refrig info for you.
We are running generator during allowable hours, so batteries are ok.
At other thoughts?