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Anyone interested in 83 Pace Arrow Tear down and Rebuild?

fulltimin
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Nomad
Started to look into some water damage in the kitchen of our 83 Pace Arrow. The more I looked, the more I found. I have some pics of the damage so far. Anyone interested in following a rebuild thread?
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If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.
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navegator
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Explorer
Enogh space for a fire extinguisher?

navegator

fulltimin
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Nomad
This is the space between the open step cover and the end of the kitchen cabinet.

This would not interfere with the step cover, whether it was up or down.



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If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

fulltimin
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Replacing the hinges and the cover and hinges look like this. I have not yet routed the cover for the hinges. I've been thinking about covering it with a thin piece of plywood.







Here's the close up of the recessed hinge.



If you want to do something, you will find a way.
If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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Good judgement comes from experience.
A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

fulltimin
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I then laid the hinge across the bottom of the router, so I could set the depth of cut properly.







Then I proceeded to remove a small amount of wood.



If you want to do something, you will find a way.
If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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Good judgement comes from experience.
A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

fulltimin
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I marked the area of the hinge on the floor with a pencil so I would know where to remove a small bit of wood for the hinge to recess into.



If you want to do something, you will find a way.
If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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Good judgement comes from experience.
A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

fulltimin
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Nomad
Old Islander wrote:
Is this door the only 'panic stations' egress from the coach? If something blows up in the night and you need to get out quickly, you sure don't want to be moving tables and lifting hatch doors to bug out...




That's the primary exit. I don't really plan on having anything sitting on top of that. I do plan on having a quick lift capability, possible with a cord, but in the worst case scenario, open the door and jump, I guess.

Then again, if I made it permanent, (not planned at this point), the steps would slide out automatically with the cover in place.
If you want to do something, you will find a way.
If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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Good judgement comes from experience.
A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

Old_Islander
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Is this door the only 'panic stations' egress from the coach? If something blows up in the night and you need to get out quickly, you sure don't want to be moving tables and lifting hatch doors to bug out...

fulltimin
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Nomad
When the stair cover is in the up position, we still have over 14" of space between the cover and the end of the kitchen cabinet.











That means I have more room for "something"! Maybe storage, or a folding table, or, who knows? Lots of possibilities!
If you want to do something, you will find a way.
If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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Good judgement comes from experience.
A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

fulltimin
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Nomad
This is last times photo with the hinges just temporarily screwed down.







Today, I flipped the hinges upside down, and cut a mortise in the plywood for the hinge portion to fit into.







These hinges will swing more than 270 degrees, so I can still stand the cover straight up, when I don't want it covering the steps.
If you want to do something, you will find a way.
If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

fulltimin
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I added some temporary braces under my step cover. (under red arrows)That will hold it up when I step on it, and I won't have to worry about stepping into that "hole" while working inside.







The more I look at it, I "almost" would like to leave it there permanently, and put all the steps outside. I don't know that I will do that, but for now, I can lift it up when I need to.
If you want to do something, you will find a way.
If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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Good judgement comes from experience.
A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

fulltimin
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This is why I didn't line the two up.

When the step cover is open, if the pivot point lines up with the edge of the floor, then the cover will protrude into the step area, and I wanted it completely out of the way.

Moving the pivot back, allows that to happen.



If you want to do something, you will find a way.
If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

fulltimin
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This is what I was working on today. I've wanted to use the area above the steps when the door is closed, and that is what I built.

This is just the first temporary fitment.

You will notice the edge of the floor, (red arrow), and the pivot point on the hinges, (yellow arrow), do not line up. That is by design.



If you want to do something, you will find a way.
If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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Good judgement comes from experience.
A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

fulltimin
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Sometimes the best laid plans ..... yea, they don't always work out.

Company showed up yesterday and completely ruined my plans for working.

However, I was back today.

I worked on something that has been bothering me for a while, and I finally decided to do something about it.

This pic shows part of my work today, and sometimes I find it better to use 2 clamps when driving the Kreg screws to keep both pieces of lumber level.



If you want to do something, you will find a way.
If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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Good judgement comes from experience.
A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

fulltimin
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Nomad
PastorCharlie wrote:
I never total in the cost of tools on a project as they will long outlive the project. Doing so one might also total in the cost of all, shop overhead and equipment as well as related expenses such as travel etc. that are involved in the project.




I wouldn't include any major ones, but I included these, just to give people a feel for what a set of shop made sawhorses cost me, vs buying a set in the store.

My big complaint with them is the height. I don't like bending over to work on stuff.

The router bit, I broke, so I figure that is in a different category.
If you want to do something, you will find a way.
If you don't, you will find an excuse.

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Good judgement comes from experience.
A lot of experience, comes from bad judgement.

PastorCharlie
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I never total in the cost of tools on a project as they will long outlive the project. Doing so one might also total in the cost of all, shop overhead and equipment as well as related expenses such as travel etc. that are involved in the project.