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Beaver Patriot house batteries

RAINEYTXX
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Need some help here. Our 2008 Beaver Patriot Thunder has out lived it's 4-6v Lifeline batteries. Time for a replacement. The Lifelines are a huge capacity (400 a/h) each.

We boondock 6 to 8 hrs overnight or drive 8 hours without generator. Overnight we use aqua hot for heat and water heating, residential refer, TV and sound system. What would you reccomend for a lower cost alternative given the application provided above?

I appreciate your thoughts on this and if possible an approximate cost estimation.

Thank you
2012 DRV Mobile Suites Atlanta 43'
2012 F-450
2016 Audi Q5
2011 Audi A8L
2004 Audi A4 6 speed sport package
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jplante4
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pianotuna wrote:
It is SUCH fun to top up the battery bank while laying in the snow. NOT!

2oldman wrote:
Lower cost usually gets you into wet batteries, which require watering.


Or for $50 you could get THIS.

Squeeze bulb sold separately. How stupid is that?
Jerry & Jeanne
1996 Safari Sahara 3530 - 'White Tiger'
CAT 3126/Allison 6 speed/Magnum Chassis
2014 Equinox AWD / Blue Ox

wa8yxm
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Explorer III
Most 6 VOlt batteries are only around 220 amp horus.. Which lifeline size do you haver (They do make 'em bigger but you did not post the model number)
Home was where I park it. but alas the.
2005 Damon Intruder 377 Alas declared a total loss
after a semi "nicked" it. Still have the radios
Kenwood TS-2000, ICOM ID-5100, ID-51A+2, ID-880 REF030C most times

Tom_Barb
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2oldman wrote:
Lower cost usually gets you into wet batteries, which require watering.

Not a problem,, once per quarter slide the battery tray out, flip the caps up and add water as needed.

10 minutes at most.
2000 Newmar mountain aire 4081 DP, ISC/350 Allison 6 speed, Wrangler JL toad.

Lwiddis
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82 in northern Los Angeles today, tuna.
Winnebago 2101DS TT & 2022 Chevy Silverado 1500 LTZ Z71, WindyNation 300 watt solar-Lossigy 200 AH Lithium battery. Prefer boondocking, USFS, COE, BLM, NPS, TVA, state camps. Bicyclist. 14 yr. Army -11B40 then 11A - (MOS 1542 & 1560) IOBC & IOAC grad

pianotuna
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Nomad II
It is SUCH fun to top up the battery bank while laying in the snow. NOT!

2oldman wrote:
Lower cost usually gets you into wet batteries, which require watering.
Regards, Don
My ride is a 28 foot Class C, 256 watts solar, 556 amp-hours of Telcom jars, 3000 watt Magnum hybrid inverter, Sola Basic Autoformer, Microair Easy Start.

Lwiddis
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I like my T125s, Tom
Winnebago 2101DS TT & 2022 Chevy Silverado 1500 LTZ Z71, WindyNation 300 watt solar-Lossigy 200 AH Lithium battery. Prefer boondocking, USFS, COE, BLM, NPS, TVA, state camps. Bicyclist. 14 yr. Army -11B40 then 11A - (MOS 1542 & 1560) IOBC & IOAC grad

2oldman
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Lower cost usually gets you into wet batteries, which require watering.
"If I'm wearing long pants, I'm too far north" - 2oldman

Tom_Barb
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We went with THESE
2000 Newmar mountain aire 4081 DP, ISC/350 Allison 6 speed, Wrangler JL toad.

RLS7201
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I have friend with about the same energy usage as you. He continually discharges his batteries below 50 percent and has to replace his GC1 batteries every two years. Replace your 400 amp hour batteries with the same and avoid headaches down the road. Beaver originally installed the necessary batteries.

Richard
95 Bounder 32H F53 460
2013 CRV Toad
2 Segways in Toad
First brake job
1941 Hudson

pianotuna
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Nomad II
Hi,

Go to the lifeline page and search for advice on how to recondition the batteries. You may need to "dance on the needles" because you do not wish the VRLA valve to vent.

RAINEYTXX wrote:
pianotuna wrote:
L-16 format?

Have you tried reconditioning?


What is the l-16 battery? By reconditioning do you mean equalizing?
Sorry, my last fifth wheel had 4-6v batteries to run my residential refer off the inverter. Quite a bit less expensive the Lifeline AGM batteries at 400/ah.

Please advise
Regards, Don
My ride is a 28 foot Class C, 256 watts solar, 556 amp-hours of Telcom jars, 3000 watt Magnum hybrid inverter, Sola Basic Autoformer, Microair Easy Start.

jorbill2or
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Are the lifelines really 400ah ea .... as in x L 16 ( big) 400 amp hours is more than a GC battery can do ... or are they the same size as the golf carts you had in your prior rig 230 ah ea ? If they are the large L16 then dropping down to the GC2 size is certainly cheaper and possible with only overnight use. You could also drop the agm but I wouldnโ€™t as you would have to check water levels frequently. Probably not something you want to do or read up on.
I also think dropping to 2 L 16โ€™s might be what Iโ€™d do .. limited boondocing but ....
Bill

RAINEYTXX
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pianotuna wrote:
L-16 format?

Have you tried reconditioning?


What is the l-16 battery? By reconditioning do you mean equalizing?
Sorry, my last fifth wheel had 4-6v batteries to run my residential refer off the inverter. Quite a bit less expensive the Lifeline AGM batteries at 400/ah.

Please advise
2012 DRV Mobile Suites Atlanta 43'
2012 F-450
2016 Audi Q5
2011 Audi A8L
2004 Audi A4 6 speed sport package

pianotuna
Nomad II
Nomad II
L-16 format?

Have you tried reconditioning?
Regards, Don
My ride is a 28 foot Class C, 256 watts solar, 556 amp-hours of Telcom jars, 3000 watt Magnum hybrid inverter, Sola Basic Autoformer, Microair Easy Start.

jplante4
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RAINEYTXX wrote:
jplante4 wrote:
I would stay with the 4-6 volt jars. Interstates run around $150 each. I've seen Trojan T-105s for less than $100 but I was suspicious.


Mmmm, the 6v Interstate battery price I was quoted an approx $350.00/we. What capacity are the $150.00 batteries?


225aH each, so 2 in series gets you 225aH at 12 volts and 4 gets you 450. We sell them all day at $150. Check around. These guys are quoting $149 but then you have to ship them.

Another good source is golf car retailers. They usually deal exclusively in Trojans, but you may be able to find an overstock or going out of business sale.
Jerry & Jeanne
1996 Safari Sahara 3530 - 'White Tiger'
CAT 3126/Allison 6 speed/Magnum Chassis
2014 Equinox AWD / Blue Ox

RAINEYTXX
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jplante4 wrote:
I would stay with the 4-6 volt jars. Interstates run around $150 each. I've seen Trojan T-105s for less than $100 but I was suspicious.


Mmmm, the 6v Interstate battery price I was quoted an approx $350.00/we. What capacity are the $150.00 batteries?
2012 DRV Mobile Suites Atlanta 43'
2012 F-450
2016 Audi Q5
2011 Audi A8L
2004 Audi A4 6 speed sport package