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Flat tire 36 hrs after I purchased new

gonzo71
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Hey everybody,

Been a long time I have posted. We had the MoHo in storage for 3 years due to health and employment issues BUT WE ARE NOW BACK....Yahooo.

I start with putting all brand new tires on the MoHo.

I picked up the MoHo yesterday and this morning I saw the right front was almost flat. I had 15psi left. I managed to fill up the tire and found the valve stem extender was not screwed on tight.

Should I be concerned about damage to the tire? I will call the shop and talk to the manager but need some advice from you guys befor I call.

I know I also need to update my signature but I can not log into that area.
Carsten

2002 Holiday Rambler Vacationer 34SBD, W22 Workhorse, 8.1L Vortec
2017 F150 (Cliffird)





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willald
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djgarcia wrote:
willald wrote:


Anyway, sounds like your tire is probably fine. You caught it and took care of it before any damage was done (good job!) I'd also say that the place that sold, installed the new tires probably is not at fault here - your valve extension is. JMO, but next thing I'd do is dump those extensions. If you must use extensions, only use ones that are 'airless'. Meaning, there is no air pressure in them except when you put a gauge or air hose on it. Even better would be dually valves. Thats what I use, and would highly recommend.


Politetly disagree----The tire shop is responsible for installing new and/or checking all valve stems and extensions, mounting tires, correctly torqueing all lug nuts and finally checking all tires and stems for any air leakage before the RV leaves the tire shop.


Agreed, but what evidence is there, that the valve stem extension was loose when it left the tire shop?

I have personally experienced one of those extensions being tight when heading out, but getting knocked loose by road debris when on the road. It CAN happen, and does. Seems unlikely tire shop would have left it loose, but who knows.

Anyway, its all a moot point, as the matter has been taken care of, and the dealer is agreeing to make sure there is no damage, which is great.

Will
Will and Cheryl
2021 Newmar Baystar 3014 on F53 (7.3 V8) Chassis ("Brook")
2018 Jeep Wrangler JK ("Wilbur")

MarkTwain
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willald wrote:


Anyway, sounds like your tire is probably fine. You caught it and took care of it before any damage was done (good job!) I'd also say that the place that sold, installed the new tires probably is not at fault here - your valve extension is. JMO, but next thing I'd do is dump those extensions. If you must use extensions, only use ones that are 'airless'. Meaning, there is no air pressure in them except when you put a gauge or air hose on it. Even better would be dually valves. Thats what I use, and would highly recommend.


Politetly disagree----The tire shop is responsible for installing new and/or checking all valve stems and extensions, mounting tires, correctly torqueing all lug nuts and finally checking all tires and stems for any air leakage before the RV leaves the tire shop.

Bill_Diana
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I would add air to the tire and take it back to the tire guy. Let him determine the problem & FIX IT.

tropical36
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Bruce Brown wrote:
K Charles wrote:
The valve stem extender is not what keeps the air in the tire, the core in the value stem does. Take it back to the tire guy and let him fix it.

But if the extender is loose it will hold the core open...:S

You got that right and some are a constant problem that are much better off in the nearest garbage can.
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gonzo71
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So luck no damage to the tire.
There is only 1 valve core on the extender not on the stem itself. I have now asked them to remove the extender and just have a core on the stem. One less thing to worrie about.

Now I have to look at some other issues I found after having the bus in storage for 3 years.
Carsten

2002 Holiday Rambler Vacationer 34SBD, W22 Workhorse, 8.1L Vortec
2017 F150 (Cliffird)





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gonzo71
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Little update,
I called Kal Tire in Nisku, AB where I got the tires. talked to Shawn the branch manager. As soon as I told him what happend, he asked me to bring to Motorhome back and he will take the tire off for inspection. I am happy that without inc if and buts he told me to come back..
I will try to find some time later today.
Carsten

2002 Holiday Rambler Vacationer 34SBD, W22 Workhorse, 8.1L Vortec
2017 F150 (Cliffird)





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willald
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We had something very similar to this happen to us a few years ago, and it was the reason why I quit using any kind of valve extension that is not 'airless'. Those things can and do work loose, and the air leaks out. Like you, it almost cost me a tire.

In my case, some kind of road debris hit the valve extension just right, and worked it loose. Got to campground with a very flat tire and loose valve extension. Good Sam ERS came out, took off and dismounted the tire, examined it inside and out for damage. Found none, so they re-mounted it, aired it back up, removed that valve extension, and tire was/is fine to this day. Not long after that, I dumped all those valve extensions, and went with Dually valve stem replacements.

Anyway, sounds like your tire is probably fine. You caught it and took care of it before any damage was done (good job!) I'd also say that the place that sold, installed the new tires probably is not at fault here - your valve extension is. JMO, but next thing I'd do is dump those extensions. If you must use extensions, only use ones that are 'airless'. Meaning, there is no air pressure in them except when you put a gauge or air hose on it. Even better would be dually valves. Thats what I use, and would highly recommend.
Will and Cheryl
2021 Newmar Baystar 3014 on F53 (7.3 V8) Chassis ("Brook")
2018 Jeep Wrangler JK ("Wilbur")

MarkTwain
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gonzo71 wrote:
Hey everybody,

Been a long time I have posted. We had the MoHo in storage for 3 years due to health and employment issues BUT WE ARE NOW BACK....Yahooo.

I start with putting all brand new tires on the MoHo.

I picked up the MoHo yesterday and this morning I saw the right front was almost flat. I had 15psi left. I managed to fill up the tire and found the valve stem extender was not screwed on tight.

Should I be concerned about damage to the tire? I will call the shop and talk to the manager but need some advice from you guys befor I call.

I know I also need to update my signature but I can not log into that area.


I would take it back to the tire shop and tell them you want the tire taken off the rim and checked for any damage to the inside of the tire. If you don't already have metal stems, I would have them installed on all the tires.

mpierce
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The extender opens the first valve, before it is fully tight. If it is only screwed on loosely, it opens the valve, but the connection leaks. The extender has its own valve on the end. I have had a number of extenders leak, because a tire tech did not tighten them. Tighten, air up, and go.

gonzo71
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K Charles wrote:
The valve stem extender is not what keeps the air in the tire, the core in the value stem does. Take it back to the tire guy and let him fix it.


It kind off does. The valve core is inserted into the top end of the stem extender, the stem extender is screwed onto the valve stem. The connection between the extender and the stem got full tire pressure to hold.
Carsten

2002 Holiday Rambler Vacationer 34SBD, W22 Workhorse, 8.1L Vortec
2017 F150 (Cliffird)





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soren
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K Charles wrote:
The valve stem extender is not what keeps the air in the tire, the core in the value stem does. Take it back to the tire guy and let him fix it.


What? Ask a tire service guy how many times he did service calls that involve tightening a lose extender and re-inflating the tire. It happened twice, in a few weeks, at the large CG we spent the winter in.

10forty2
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Like said before...now that you have the extender screwed on tight, fill to proper pressure and watch to see what happens. If it still leaks, then take it back to the tire dealer.
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Bruce_Brown
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K Charles wrote:
The valve stem extender is not what keeps the air in the tire, the core in the value stem does. Take it back to the tire guy and let him fix it.

But if the extender is loose it will hold the core open...:S
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K_Charles
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The valve stem extender is not what keeps the air in the tire, the core in the value stem does. Take it back to the tire guy and let him fix it.