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Ford Class C with 6 speed transmission

Johnny_Hurryup
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I see that the newer Fords with a V 10 have a six speed auto transmission. When did they replace the old 5 speed (I had a '99 with only a 4 speed) Would one expect to get better gas mileage with the new tranny??
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T18skyguy
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carringb wrote:
The 6R140 has double overdrives, with the top ratio at 1 to 0.67, vs 0.72 for the 4R10/5R110, and was designed with fuel economy improvements in mind. One operator I spoke to found their new shuttle buses were seeing about 20-percent highway fuel economy. There were other improvements made besides the gear ratios, to make it more efficient. The difference probably isn't as dramatic in a motorhome because aero drag is much higher.

The V10 got the 6R140 for the 2016 model year, then it was added to the 6.2L V8 for the 2017 model year.


Good information. I had a 96 Jayco Eagle with a 460 and the E4OD. I had the Banks headers and if I kept my foot out of it I got 10 mpg. Now I have a 2017 Greyhawk with the V10 and 6 speed transmission and I still get 10 mpg, the big difference being the new rig is 10 foot longer and much heavier. I've been really pleasantly surprised with this excellent drivetrain. I had expected like 7-8 mpg. I also have an 03 box van with the V10 and the 4R100 and the mileage is horrible.
Retired Anesthetist. LTP. Pilot with mechanic/inspection ratings. Between rigs right now.. Wife and daughter. Four cats which we must obey.

BruceMc
Explorer III
Explorer III
We had that 4 speed in our 2000 Four Winds, and it sorely needed a gear between 2nd and 3rd. When pulling hills, it was either screaming at 4500 RPM in second at 50MPH (or thereabouts) or lugging in 3rd for a few second before it'd drop to 2nd again....
Any time that thing saw a rise 5 miles away, it'd shift out of 4th, and it'd do only about 45-50 MPH on any significant grade.

If at all possible, get one with the 5 speed, or ideally, the 6. I understand I had that anemic V10 with that 4 speed as well - the newer V10s have better HP.

Our current ride, a 2016 Sunseeker 2250 on Chevy 4500, has a well-geared 6 speed coupled to the strong 6L V8. I can easily hold the speed limit on any hill, though I let it fall back as I'm never in a big hurry to get to the top.
2016 Forest River Sunseeker 2250SLEC Chevrolet 6.0L

carringb
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The 6R140 has double overdrives, with the top ratio at 1 to 0.67, vs 0.72 for the 4R100/5R110, and was designed with fuel economy improvements in mind. One operator I spoke to found their new shuttle buses were seeing about 20-percent highway fuel economy. There were other improvements made besides the gear ratios, to make it more efficient. The difference probably isn't as dramatic in a motorhome because aero drag is much higher.

The V10 got the 6R140 for the 2016 model year, then it was added to the 6.2L V8 for the 2017 model year.
2000 Ford E450 V10 VAN! 450,000+ miles
2014 ORV really big trailer
2015 Ford Focus ST

DrewE
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Explorer II
Gas mileage would probably not improve much if any due to the new transmission. It was introduced on the E series a year or two ago, if memory serves.

The gap between the top two (highway) gears is a good bit less wide on the new transmission, vs. the five and four speed ones which were basically identical in that particular regard. That alone would make for pleasanter driving in many circumstances.

Jayco-noslide
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I wish our older Class C had more than it's 4-speed but honestly the 4-speed does just fine. I doubt a difference in MPG would even be noticeable but it would give more options for up and down hills. An old friend has a Chevy pick-up with a 2-speed powerglide and even that is adequate.
Jayco-noslide

pianotuna
Nomad III
Nomad III
At highway speeds no improvement because the top gear ration is no different.
Regards, Don
My ride is a 28 foot Class C, 256 watts solar, 556 amp-hours of Telcom jars, 3000 watt Magnum hybrid inverter, Sola Basic Autoformer, Microair Easy Start.