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Rheevs
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How many of you actually know what your GCW (gross combination weight)is? Also how many run over the GCWR (gross combination weight rating). I just weighed my MH and toad and I am just 300# under with full water and fuel.The Subaru only weighs 3000# and I see coaches similar to ours pulling much larger vehicles. Also has anyone been stopped to be weighed by state patrol or gotten a ticket for being overweight.

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Vicki and Ed

2013 Winnebago Adventurer WFJ35P
The Saratoga
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rk911
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dahkota wrote:
We know ours (26K). Our towed weighs 3856 lbs. We are under our GCWR and under our GVW.

Is your Winne on the 22K chassis or the 24K? You have too much weight in the coach - at least 700 lbs. Note on the 22K chassis, the GCWR is 26K (4K difference with a 5K hitch).

Our A is 2.5' shorter than yours on the 22K chassis - we have 3500 lbs of cargo capacity. With our extra batteries, solar panels, 2/3 water (60G), and full gas, loaded for fulltiming, we are under GVW by about 600 lbs.


that may be true but you may be overweight on one axle. do not assume.
Rich
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rk911
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msturtz wrote:
I know my GVWR and GCWR. I work to remain under those weights. It is difficult to find any RV with sufficient GCWR and GVWR left for normal use. I actually looked at a 36' Super C that was over the GVWR when it left the factory! Some of them had 500# of CCC left without water most were over! I only found out by calling the factory rep and asking what the shipping weight was and the NCC (net cargo carrying capacity) was. He didn't know (the factory rep) and when he returned he said that it seemed that they had been shipping many units overweight from the factory. It is common to put a 10K hitch on a DP but the unit only has 4K of GCWR left if loaded to its max GVWR. This makes it very difficult for the average customer to realistically determine what they are doing. I will have my unit weighed and try to manage within the specified weights because I'm paranoid. Some weigh stations demand that all vehicles over 16K stop at weigh stations even RVs. Technically they can write you a ticket and take you out of service until you reduce weight.


it's not enough to know the GVWR. you need to know the actual weight on each axle and how that compares to the gross axle weight rating for that axle. it is possible to weigh less than the GVWR and still have one axle...usually the rear...overweight. I know this to be true from personal experience. load your MH as you normally would for travel (don't forget people and pets) and then get individual axle weights. know, don't assume.
Rich
Ham Radio, Sport Pilot, Retired 9-1-1 Call Center Administrator
_________________________________
2016 Itasca Suncruiser 38Q
'46 Willys CJ2A
'23 Jeep Wrangler JL
'10 Jeep Liberty KK

& MaggieThe Wonder Beagle

dahkota
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We know ours (26K). Our towed weighs 3856 lbs. We are under our GCWR and under our GVW.

Is your Winne on the 22K chassis or the 24K? You have too much weight in the coach - at least 700 lbs. Note on the 22K chassis, the GCWR is 26K (4K difference with a 5K hitch).

Our A is 2.5' shorter than yours on the 22K chassis - we have 3500 lbs of cargo capacity. With our extra batteries, solar panels, 2/3 water (60G), and full gas, loaded for fulltiming, we are under GVW by about 600 lbs.
2015 Jeep Willys Wrangler
2014 Fleetwood Bounder 33C
States camped: all but Hawaii
more than 1700 days on the road

We_Cant_Wait
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About the only time you stand a chance of being weighed by D.O.T. or the state police is if you're involved in a fatal accident and it looks like it might be your fault, then they might weigh you if with TOAD they think you're over weight. If you're within 300lbs. of Gross and your TOAD only weighs 3000lbs. then yes you need to get on a scale ASAP and see what your coach weight is BY axles. You didn't tell us what MH you have but most MH's have at least a 5000lb towing capacity, if yours does then you could be around 2000lbs over Gross on the MH.

msturtz
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I know my GVWR and GCWR. I work to remain under those weights. It is difficult to find any RV with sufficient GCWR and GVWR left for normal use. I actually looked at a 36' Super C that was over the GVWR when it left the factory! Some of them had 500# of CCC left without water most were over! I only found out by calling the factory rep and asking what the shipping weight was and the NCC (net cargo carrying capacity) was. He didn't know (the factory rep) and when he returned he said that it seemed that they had been shipping many units overweight from the factory. It is common to put a 10K hitch on a DP but the unit only has 4K of GCWR left if loaded to its max GVWR. This makes it very difficult for the average customer to realistically determine what they are doing. I will have my unit weighed and try to manage within the specified weights because I'm paranoid. Some weigh stations demand that all vehicles over 16K stop at weigh stations even RVs. Technically they can write you a ticket and take you out of service until you reduce weight.
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rk911
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Rheevs wrote:
How many of you actually know what your GCW (gross combination weight)is? Also how many run over the GCWR (gross combination weight rating). I just weighed my MH and toad and I am just 300# under with full water and fuel.The Subaru only weighs 3000# and I see coaches similar to ours pulling much larger vehicles. Also has anyone been stopped to be weighed by state patrol or gotten a ticket for being overweight.


have you weighed your MH without the toad with separate axle weights? are either of your MH axles overweight when the actual weight is compared to the GAWR?
Rich
Ham Radio, Sport Pilot, Retired 9-1-1 Call Center Administrator
_________________________________
2016 Itasca Suncruiser 38Q
'46 Willys CJ2A
'23 Jeep Wrangler JL
'10 Jeep Liberty KK

& MaggieThe Wonder Beagle