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getting schocked by door/electrical issue urgent

awesomeman
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Hey everyone currently have a 2018 Minnie winnie 22M. Im currently plugged into an outlet with a 30 to 15 amp adapter.
Heres the issue....I just went to open the door and I can clearly feel electricity running through the metal door handle. Not enough to shock, but you can definitely feel it. You can also feel it on the metal parts of the door hinges. Im freaking out a bit. Can anyone explain what would be causing this? Since Im pretty far from supplies, Im hoping to get an explanation asap!
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Bordercollie
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We had the same problem. Call an electrician and have him check the wiring of your receptacle that the RV cable plugs into, (etc)

If you are standing in water and touching the RV, electrocution is possible. I don't mess with 110vac .

Harvard
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These "hockey puck" 15/30 Amps adaptors are a typical source of open grounds.
The round female ground does not make electrical contact with the male counterpart.
Notice in the picture the electrode of the female ground is visible only because it has been crimped to fix the problem.

Harvard
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So, summarizing the Hot Skin problem:

First, the door is electrically connected to the Chassis AND the Chassis is NOT grounded to the pedestal ground wire.

The outside Hot Skin where the RV is connected to shore power BUT having an open ground allows the RV Chassis (on rubber tires) to float above Earth potential. Due to the capacitance between H and G and the capacitance between G and N the chassis will float at a VAC of about 120/2 = 60 VAC OR LESS to Earth.

The OR LESS is there because there could be capacitive coupling (or a resistive path) between the Chassis and Earth that would tend to reduce the float VAC to EARTH.

If the Chassis to Earth voltage exceeds 60 VAC then there is ALSO a resistive leakage path from Hot To Chassis... DANGER...this is a lot more then a tingle.

When we are inside a properly grounded RV our bodies are likewise floating unless we are touching a conductive path to Chassis Ground. Our floating bodies act as capacitive plates and are exposed to 60Hz Electric Fields. The coupling strength of these EFs to our bodies vary in intensity. They vary in intensity by virtue of the body's proximity to hot wires and the effective area of exposure. At no point is the inside Body to Hot coupling as strong as the inside Body to Chassis coupling so the body floats at relatively low voltages.
For Example: Strange "Hot Skin" Electrical Issue - Getting minor Shocks

RoyB
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Need to pick up one of these testers... This will tell you when the SHORE POWER CONNECTION is having a problem...

The RV Trailers get there GROUND CONNECTION from the Shore Power Connection...


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I got mine from LOWES I think it was... You can definitely order one from AMAZON...

Different folks and animals all react to this shocking event differently... Could really be a safety hazard...

Be sure to check your shore power cable connection. One of your pins may be burned badly... This can be caused by worn out connections that some campground pedestal are using...


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Beaker
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When mine was doing that(20v from bumper to wet cement)it was the adapter. You could see where the connection was black on one of the legs.
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Lwiddis
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“Do you have one of those little 3 light plug in outlet testers to test for ground continuity and reverse polarity?”

Never ever plugin without checking.
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Old-Biscuit
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RV Hot Skin......read about the condition
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time2roll
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awesomeman wrote:
Im freaking out a bit. Can anyone explain what would be causing this? Since Im pretty far from supplies, Im hoping to get an explanation asap!
Usually one of two things.

#1 Bad Ground connection. The outlet may have a bad ground connection combined with some appliance that is leaking some power to ground. This would seem less likely with a near new RV.

#2 Reverse Polarity at the outlet. This is where the hot and neutral is reversed where the wires connect to the outlet. If you can remove the outlet... the black or red wire (hot) should be on the brass screw closer to the narrow slot. The white wire (neutral) should be on the shinier steel screw closer to the wide slot.

Campground may have someone to check this. A common 3-light outlet tester will also confirm the condition.

awesomeman
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ok so, the electricity goes away when Im unplugged or running off the generator. Theres probably some issue with the outlet, but can someone please explain how this could happen? Theres literally no wiring in the door?

Flute_Man
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KD4UPL wrote:
If everything is okay in your RV, and it should be as new as it is, I would suspect the outlet you are plugged into is wired wrong. Do you have one of those little 3 light plug in outlet testers to test for ground continuity and reverse polarity? If not you should get one at a hardware store, they're cheap. Do you own a voltmeter? You can use a voltmeter to check the outlet too.
Can you try another outlet? Can you run a long cord to another outlet just for troubleshooting?
Also, with the RV unplugged, inspect your shore power cord for damage. With the RV plugged in turn off the circuit breakers and see if the sensation goes away. It may be just one circuit in your RV that has a ground fault in it.

KD4UPL is correct. Maybe find an electrical person to help you
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KD4UPL
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If everything is okay in your RV, and it should be as new as it is, I would suspect the outlet you are plugged into is wired wrong. Do you have one of those little 3 light plug in outlet testers to test for ground continuity and reverse polarity? If not you should get one at a hardware store, they're cheap. Do you own a voltmeter? You can use a voltmeter to check the outlet too.
Can you try another outlet? Can you run a long cord to another outlet just for troubleshooting?
Also, with the RV unplugged, inspect your shore power cord for damage. With the RV plugged in turn off the circuit breakers and see if the sensation goes away. It may be just one circuit in your RV that has a ground fault in it.