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Is my BIRD working?

cvbdsl
Explorer
Explorer
OK, so my chassis batteries keep going down, even when plugged in.
When I run the genny they do not charge, when I run the engine they do charge.

When plugged in I do not hear any clicking from the BIRD (as some state they do) even when the chassis batteries are down.

I'm thinking of ordering a new BIRD but it looks like a PITA to change it, a large red power cable runs right tight over it.

Its either the BIRD or the relay - a quick look the other day seemed to show fuses on either side of the relay (MH not in a good location to really see - am moving it). Are there fuses on either side?
2008 Holiday Rambler Scepter 42 PDQ
2018 Ford Edge SEL- Ready Brute Elite Tow Bar/Blue Ox Base plate/Patriot Brake System
Retired Canadian Army WO (1971-2000)
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cvbdsl
Explorer
Explorer
holstein13 wrote:
Newmar no longer uses the BIRD. Now they use a BIM, Battery Isolation Manager.


Any idea if it backwards compatible (e.g. can I swap it in for the BIRD)? If I have to replace it, might as well use the latest technology?

Thanks

Chris
2008 Holiday Rambler Scepter 42 PDQ
2018 Ford Edge SEL- Ready Brute Elite Tow Bar/Blue Ox Base plate/Patriot Brake System
Retired Canadian Army WO (1971-2000)

holstein13
Explorer
Explorer
Newmar no longer uses the BIRD. Now they use a BIM, Battery Isolation Manager.
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cvbdsl
Explorer
Explorer
Actually the transfer switch is something else - mine is made by Iota and they tend to catch fire (happened on my 99 DSDP). I know, I had to buy a new one after it melted. Got the pictures on a different forum - easier posting pictures there than here.

The transfer switch is (in mine anyhow) a black plastic box that switches between the generator and shore power (after a pre-set delay). It does not switch between house and coach batteries. Two totally different systems (12 volts vice 120 volts).

Chris
2008 Holiday Rambler Scepter 42 PDQ
2018 Ford Edge SEL- Ready Brute Elite Tow Bar/Blue Ox Base plate/Patriot Brake System
Retired Canadian Army WO (1971-2000)

gbopp
Explorer
Explorer
Big Katuna wrote:
Commonly called a transfer switch.

Now it makes more sense.

Big_Katuna
Explorer II
Explorer II
Commonly called a transfer switch.
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newman_fulltime
Explorer II
Explorer II
I was hoping to see a parrot working :B

cvbdsl
Explorer
Explorer
Thanks, I didn't think of checking the ground:o!
BIRD = Bi-directional Isolator Relay Delay
It is the device that is supposed to switch between charging house and chassis batteries.

Chris
2008 Holiday Rambler Scepter 42 PDQ
2018 Ford Edge SEL- Ready Brute Elite Tow Bar/Blue Ox Base plate/Patriot Brake System
Retired Canadian Army WO (1971-2000)

dverstra
Explorer
Explorer
I'm not sure what a BIRD is but on my coach, when the module that was supposed to charge the chassis battery didn't work, it was a ground wire that was loose.
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