STILL searching ... cannot find

[_en_Plain_Air_]

I have been on the hunt for our 'dream' floor plan on a ford or chevy. I don't understand why the floor plans we like are only on Sprinters. Rear twins, dry bath, dining area, no slide. It seems that most manufacturers have such a model (on a sprinter), ranging in length from 24'6" to 25'9". So, why isn't it on a ford or chevy at the same length? Is it a technical problem? Or, is the front end of the sprinter so short by comparison that putting the same shape 'house' on a ford/chevy would make the unit considerably longer? Please explain. I love this forum and learn so much.

[ron_dittmer]

Wishin' and Hopin' wrote:
I see the table in the 24, but the 'how to live in my RV' vision includes two separate spaces to 'be' in. For example - the early riser can hang out at the dedicated dinette space, do computer work, watch a movie, have breakfast etc. I think learning to live together, for a long stretch, in a small motorhome, would require two separate places to be.

I agree based on personal experience with our previous motor home. I appreciate everything having it's own dedicated function, nothing to convert so nobody gets distrurbed. And converting day space into a bed gets old real quick to me, handling linens and such.

It's also nice to be able to say "I'm staying up a little later". When my wife wants to stay up a little later, I draw the privacy curtian and she can do what she wants in the living area as long as the volume is low.

[DaCrema]

Wishin' and Hopin' wrote:
I would get a LD in a heartbeat, but... the 24 rear king doesn't have a dinette and the 27 is too long. I see the table in the 24, but the 'how to live in my RV' vision includes two separate spaces to 'be' in. For example - the early riser can hang out at the dedicated dinette space, do computer work, watch a movie, have breakfast etc. I think learning to live together, for a long stretch, in a small motorhome, would require two separate places to be. That's been the vision, and the small sprinters do that ... if one wants a sprinter.

Understood and totally agree. We were originally looking at a shorter RV - not just a LD. Went to a LD meet and liked the two living spaces of the mid bath. Had to measure the driveway two or three times. We do not store it at home but it does spend considerable time here between trips. Ours, built before Ford increased the cab area, is a little shorter than the current model (26.5).

Your RV is out there somewhere. Good hunting.
John

I edited this to say "understood and totally agree"

[_en_Plain_Air_]

I would get a LD in a heartbeat, but... the 24 rear king doesn't have a dinette and the 27 is too long. I see the table in the 24, but the 'how to live in my RV' vision includes two separate spaces to 'be' in. For example - the early riser can hang out at the dedicated dinette space, do computer work, watch a movie, have breakfast etc. I think learning to live together, for a long stretch, in a small motorhome, would require two separate places to be. That's been the vision, and the small sprinters do that ... if one wants a sprinter.

[DaCrema]

What was the problem with the LD? I ask because I live in northern VA. I might be able to help with some questions. And, no, our LD is not for sale. 🙂
I would not have a LD now if some one in the area had not been available for the wife and I to talk to. They are difficult to find in the wild in these part of the woods.

24 ft Twin King


27' Mid Bath


John

[DaCrema]

What was the problem with the LD? I ask because I live in northern VA. I might be able to help with some questions. And, no, our LD is not for sale. 🙂
I would not have a LD now if some one in the area had not been available for the wife and I to talk to. They are difficult to find in the wild in these part of the woods.

24 ft Twin King


27' Mid Bath


John

[_en_Plain_Air_]

Ron - Thanks for tracking that down !
I love your posts - you provide great information.
I'll continue stalking the mfg websites, watching for new floor plan releases. I'm frankly shocked that the floor plans found on sprinters, aren't also offered on ford/chevy. I'm missing something ... or manufacturers are.

[ron_dittmer]

Wishin' and Hopin' wrote:
We'd like to stay under 26 feet....

We're trying to track down old Phoenix brochures to see older floor plans that might be possible.

I have a few different model year brochures in pdf on my computer. I found the rear twin bed model I was thinking of. It is called model 2950 at 29'-8", much longer than you seek. Sorry for the goose chase.

Here is the floorplan shown with an optional slideout.

[_en_Plain_Air_]

We'd like to stay under 26 feet. When we first saw the floor plan we like (on a sprinter), the length of that unit was 24'6". That unit has all the components we want and a great total length. Many more acceptable floor plan units are now available (sprinter only) under 26'. We're trying to track down old Phoenix brochures to see older floor plans that might be possible.

[rmmpe]

Pay close attention if you look at the Phoenix Cruiser 2551 and 2550. The 2551 does not have room for a stand-alone chair behind the Passenger seat but the 2552, which is a bit longer, comes with a Euro Lounger.
That's why we moved from a 2551 to a 2552 (both with slides).

[RckyMtnVia]

Phoenix Cruiser and Nexus have the floor plan you are looking for in the Ford chassis.

[D_E_Bishop]

There is a mfg that advertises in MoHo mag. I can't remember the m
name and I think they have one under 27 feet. They are direct sales only, so look in mags.

[ron_dittmer]

Every Phoenix Cruiser shows a slideout but every forward slideout is optional. The no-slide dinette like we have is standard. Only the rear slideout with double or queen bed within need to be so. If you want rear twin beds, they discontinued that model, but I bet they'll build one upon request. Check out their previous model brochures for that floorplan. Every PC has a dry bath. The factory aims to please, every unit can be customized to a point at little to no charge....sometimes even saving money.

Every model is built on an E350 or E450 pending the length. The Sprinter chassis is an option on two of their shorter models.

Click on my sigtnature to see many pictures of our model 2350.

[_en_Plain_Air_]

We've looked at EVERY manufacturer's new units. Lazydaze is one of the few NOT doing it. The floorplan (and similar acceptable variations) we like, is being made (ie leisurevan Unity 24tb) by many ... but all on Sprinter. I think it's a desirable floor plan. Unity does it in 24'6". We don't want 27-28 foot. It's mostly a why can't it be done on a ford/chevy question.

[tatest]

What you are looking for, rear twins, dinette, dry bath and no slide, used to be more common when C chassis were limited to 11,000-12,000 GVWR. On Econoline or early Express, about 27 to 28 feet, a little shorter with the old Chevy G30 or the Dodge van. When bigger motorhomes with slides became available, customers bought those instead. When a design stops selling, it stops being made.

Rear twins, no slides, are still useful in rental fleets, but you may not find them in retail lines.

Have you looked at floorplans for Lazydaze, BornFree, Phoenix Cruiser? Each marches to its own drummer, making things that are different from the mass producers, who are mostly making whatever seems to be selling well for the competition.