โSep-25-2014 08:46 AM
โSep-29-2014 08:12 PM
Rollnhome wrote:
Also note a MH in Arizona requires a different drivers license than a passenger carrying vehicle. Therefore they are two different types of vehicles.
โSep-29-2014 07:59 PM
Passin Thru wrote:
It is not a Commercial Vehicle, That's how! Read the complete paragraph 10 times, Call Arizona DOT and ask them. You read too much into this. Unless you haul passengers for hire or are a CMV hauling goods for compensation then you "ARE" Exempt fro Arizona Commercial Vehicle rules. Can it be any simpler than that. We owned a Peterbilt and ran all the lower states and I know AZ laws.
I also know Murphy's 1st law, Don't mess with Mrs Murphy.
โSep-29-2014 07:53 PM
โSep-29-2014 07:53 PM
Rollnhome wrote:
How can you exempt something from a list that is not included in the list? That is my point.
โSep-29-2014 07:48 PM
โSep-29-2014 07:44 PM
winepress wrote:
I took a look at 28-5432. it says it applies to:
http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ars/28/05432.htm
28-5432- This article applies to all of the following:
1. A trailer or semitrailer with a gross weight of ten thousand pounds or less and that is used in the furtherance of a commercial enterprise. (That's not me, I'm not a trailer)
2. A motor vehicle or vehicle combination if the motor vehicle or vehicle combination is designed, used or maintained primarily for the transportation of passengers for compensation or for the transportation of property. (That's not me)
3. A hearse, an ambulance or any other vehicle that is used by a mortician in the conduct of the mortician's business. (Definitely not me)
4. A commercial motor vehicle as defined in section 28-5201. (um, could be me, let's look that up)
http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ars/28/05201.htm
28-5201, says:
1. "Commercial motor vehicle" means a motor vehicle or combination of motor vehicles that is designed, used or maintained to transport passengers or property in the furtherance of a commercial enterprise on a highway in this state, that is not exempt from the gross weight fees as prescribed in section 28-5432, subsection B and that includes any of the following:
(a) A single vehicle or combination of vehicles that has a gross vehicle weight rating of eighteen thousand one or more pounds and that is used for the purposes of intrastate commerce. (Nope, no interstate commerce in my motorhome)
(b) A single vehicle or combination of vehicles that has a gross vehicle weight rating of ten thousand one or more pounds and that is used for the purposes of interstate commerce. (Nope, no interstate commerce in my motorhome)
(c) A school bus. (No school here)
(d) A bus. (Nope, I'm a private passenger vehicle, not a Greyhound)
(e) A vehicle that transports passengers for hire and that has a design capacity for eight or more persons. (No, private, not for hire)
(f) A vehicle that is used in the transportation of materials found to be hazardous for the purposes of the hazardous materials transportation authorization act of 1994 (49 United States Code sections 5101 through 5128) and that is required to be placarded under 49 Code of Federal Regulations section 172.504, as adopted by the department pursuant to this chapter. (No Hazardous stuff onboard here, well maybe if I have not dumped in a while)
I apologize in advance, I'm obviously missing something here.
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โSep-29-2014 07:33 PM
jlabr2 wrote:winepress wrote:
For whatever it's worth, I travel to AZ from CA twice a year. On my way back to CA I stop at a truck stop near the border as fuel is cheaper. I use the lane that says RV's only. Fuel is taxed at the lower rate, no option for the higher price on the RV pumps.
Ok, but did you notice if the RV pump had one of those warning stickers applied to it??
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โSep-29-2014 07:29 PM
Rollnhome wrote:
How can you exempt something from a list that is not included in the list? That is my point.
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โSep-29-2014 07:27 PM
lbligh wrote:msmith1199 wrote:
So you got a non-answer! The question that needs answered is very simple, I wonder why they can't answer it? Is a privately owned motorhome included, and if so all Diesels that weight over 26K or have three axles? And if the answer is yes, which of the four vehicle classifications are they considering a motorhome to be?
I guess we need a remedial reading class? No answer?
there is no use fuel tax on alternative fuels and use class vehicles that are exempt pursuant to section 28-5432
OK... now lets take this slowly. Since we are right back to where I took you over the past few days, ARS 28-5432 and the ONLY EXCEPTIONS listed there, we find no RVs or motorhomes. What more of an answer could you possibly need? I forgot, you said ARS 28-5432 had nothing to do with the discussion. Seems it does indeed. Too funny.
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โSep-29-2014 07:09 PM
โSep-29-2014 06:26 PM
โSep-29-2014 06:05 PM
winepress wrote:
I took a look at 28-5432. it says it applies to:
http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ars/28/05432.htm
28-5432- This article applies to all of the following:
1. A trailer or semitrailer with a gross weight of ten thousand pounds or less and that is used in the furtherance of a commercial enterprise. (That's not me, I'm not a trailer)
2. A motor vehicle or vehicle combination if the motor vehicle or vehicle combination is designed, used or maintained primarily for the transportation of passengers for compensation or for the transportation of property. (That's not me)
3. A hearse, an ambulance or any other vehicle that is used by a mortician in the conduct of the mortician's business. (Definitely not me)
4. A commercial motor vehicle as defined in section 28-5201. (um, could be me, let's look that up)
http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ars/28/05201.htm
28-5201, says:
1. "Commercial motor vehicle" means a motor vehicle or combination of motor vehicles that is designed, used or maintained to transport passengers or property in the furtherance of a commercial enterprise on a highway in this state, that is not exempt from the gross weight fees as prescribed in section 28-5432, subsection B and that includes any of the following:
(a) A single vehicle or combination of vehicles that has a gross vehicle weight rating of eighteen thousand one or more pounds and that is used for the purposes of intrastate commerce. (Nope, no interstate commerce in my motorhome)
(b) A single vehicle or combination of vehicles that has a gross vehicle weight rating of ten thousand one or more pounds and that is used for the purposes of interstate commerce. (Nope, no interstate commerce in my motorhome)
(c) A school bus. (No school here)
(d) A bus. (Nope, I'm a private passenger vehicle, not a Greyhound)
(e) A vehicle that transports passengers for hire and that has a design capacity for eight or more persons. (No, private, not for hire)
(f) A vehicle that is used in the transportation of materials found to be hazardous for the purposes of the hazardous materials transportation authorization act of 1994 (49 United States Code sections 5101 through 5128) and that is required to be placarded under 49 Code of Federal Regulations section 172.504, as adopted by the department pursuant to this chapter. (No Hazardous stuff onboard here, well maybe if I have not dumped in a while)
I apologize in advance, I'm obviously missing something here.
โSep-29-2014 05:45 PM
jlabr2 wrote:lbligh wrote:
Now... should the Statute be changed to exempt RVs. Absolutely. But as it stands and as it it written now, RVs are not exempt.
Yeah, I guess so. I guess the next step is how to change it. Start writing our Reps.
โSep-29-2014 04:42 PM
โSep-29-2014 04:21 PM
lbligh wrote:
Now... should the Statute be changed to exempt RVs. Absolutely. But as it stands and as it it written now, RVs are not exempt.