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Handheld GPS Unit For GeoCaching

WoodGlue
Explorer
Explorer
I'm looking for advice or input about a handheld GPS unit to be used for basic geocaching.

I guess I'd like to stay under $150.00 if possible.

Any advice?

WoodGlue
2002 Land Rover Discovery II
2014 Lance 1685 - Loaded - 4 Seasons - Solar - 2 AGM's
When Hell Freezes Over - I'll Camp There Too!
Lance Travel Trailer Info - Lance 1685 Travel Trailer - Lance 1575 Trailer

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rdhetrick
Explorer
Explorer
realter wrote:
Can somebody explain the excitement of this hobby? To me it seems you have a machine that takes you directly to the cache. I just don't see the fun in it.


As others have said, it takes you to the general area of the cache, you still have to look for it.

For me, the fun part is planning a hunt somewhere I haven't been before. It's a great excuse for me to take my daughter out and see different things.

If you've tried it and didn't enjoy it, great, it's not for you, but if you like the outdoors, give it a try, you might actually enjoy it.

It's a hobby, and just like any hobby, there are people who love it and people who don't. For me, I don't understand the fascination with model trains. I've tried getting into it, but it just wasn't my cup of tea.

To the OP, I too have the Garmin Oregon 450. It's a great GPS that does way more than I need it to. One of the things I thought I would like about it was the BirdsEye feature - you can download aerial photos from Garmin. I actually found this to be a pain, and the aerial photo quality wasn't that good compared to a smartphone.

I use both the Garmin and my smartphone. If I'm planning a hunt, I use the Garmin, if it's just a spontaneous check where I happen to be, then the smartphone.
Rob - Solo Full Timer
2017 Winnebago Travato 59G
Former 2006 Mandalay 40E

WoodGlue
Explorer
Explorer
Well, I decided on the Garmin Dakota 20 as it seems to be a good starter unit at $169.95. No way am I taking a netbook out on the trail or my smartphone. One drop and whoopsie!

Thanks everyone for your input!

WoodGlue
2002 Land Rover Discovery II
2014 Lance 1685 - Loaded - 4 Seasons - Solar - 2 AGM's
When Hell Freezes Over - I'll Camp There Too!
Lance Travel Trailer Info - Lance 1685 Travel Trailer - Lance 1575 Trailer

dons2346
Explorer
Explorer
realter wrote:
Can somebody explain the excitement of this hobby? To me it seems you have a machine that takes you directly to the cache. I just don't see the fun in it.


You are somewhat correct, however......the one hiding the cache might use "camo" to really disguise the cache to the point that you can't see it. Also, the hider's GPSr coordinates might not be the same as what your GPSr sees which makes the find much harder. It is not as simple as walking up to a point, looking down and saying" there is the cache". It doesn't always work that way.

A lot of cache hiders want to take you to something interesting.We once found a cache at a civil war battle field in the middle of Oklahoma.

Others subject you to a puzzle to solve before you get the final coordinates.

RicJones
Explorer
Explorer
Can somebody explain the excitement of this hobby? To me it seems you have a machine that takes you directly to the cache. I just don't see the fun in it.


You may have a device that takes you to the cache, but most caches aren't obvious. I have found hides in fake rocks, fake cacti, birds, rats, hollow branches, even a small coffin. Also, many caches take you to places you would never have gone to, a great view, a hidden lake, a historical location. And, there is the satisfaction of finding the cache, especially if you have several people looking for it.
If you know of anyone who does it I would recommend going out with them and giving it a try. If it's not for you, no big deal, but there are millions out there that really enjoy it. It adds a little adventure into their lives.

realter
Explorer
Explorer
Can somebody explain the excitement of this hobby? To me it seems you have a machine that takes you directly to the cache. I just don't see the fun in it.

mdfenley
Explorer
Explorer
I use and love my Garmin Oregon 450. Great unit. I also use my smart phone. Its a Motorola Razr Maxx HD. With Verizon, not a whole lot of places I am without signal, but there is a few. I have been a paid member of Geocaching.com for many, many years. I don't get to go as often as I used to, but still enjoy it when I can.

And a color screen is a nice thing to have, but not a requirement. ๐Ÿ™‚

BruceMc
Explorer III
Explorer III
For dedicated caching, we started with a Magellan Triton 400, then a 500. Maps cost extra... eventually we looked into the Delorme PN series, and the PN-60 fit the bill nicely. It INCLUDES comprehensive maps for North America, no extra cost.
One of the extras is a rechargeable battery from DeLorme, at $13 it is the only way to go. Anytime the unit is plugged into the computer or a power tap, it charges the batteries. Alternatively, standard AA cells can be used.
Another plus is connectivity - the internal memory or SD card can be mounted as a volume on your Mac or peecee. Geocaching's pocket queries can be copied to the waypoints folder, and you now have a great paperless geocaching device.
A mount/cradle is a nice addition as well - we have a RAM mount in our motorhome and our GMC Canyon.

The only problem we've had is the unit has stalled on us a time or two over the last several years, and the only solution is to remove the battery pack for a few seconds. We've loaded the latest firmware updates.

We've been caching since June 2009, and currently have found 1742 and have hidden 44.
2016 Forest River Sunseeker 2250SLEC Chevrolet 6.0L

dons2346
Explorer
Explorer
camperpaul wrote:
It seems to me that most of the people responding here have never been Geo-Caching.

To find a cache, you enter the latitude and longitude in degrees minutes and seconds (accurate to 0.01 seconds) and follow your GPS to the cache.

Up to date road maps are useless when the cache is two or three miles from the nearest road (those are the easy ones for beginners).

One of my most memorable finds was in the middle of an open field; when I reached the lat/long coordinates the published altitude of the cache was 35 feet above the elevation (MSL) shown on my eTrex.

You may have guessed it; I had to climb the one tree in the middle of that field.

Hit "Ctrl+A" to see how I found that cache.


I wouldn't speak for everyone here if I were you. Been caching for a few years and have quite a few caches under the belt.I have taught the sport to a lot of noobs, given classroom instruction about geocaching. I think I do know something about the sport.

And to toot my whistle, I have found caches in 30 states and 2 countries ๐Ÿ˜›

J_herb
Explorer
Explorer
camperpaul wrote:
It seems to me that most of the people responding here have never been Geo-Caching.

To find a cache, you enter the latitude and longitude in degrees minutes and seconds (accurate to 0.01 seconds) and follow your GPS to the cache.

Up to date road maps are useless when the cache is two or three miles from the nearest road (those are the easy ones for beginners).

One of my most memorable finds was in the middle of an open field; when I reached the lat/long coordinates the published altitude of the cache was 35 feet above the elevation (MSL) shown on my eTrex.

You may have guessed it; I had to climb the one tree in the middle of that field.

Hit "Ctrl+A" to see how I found that cache.


You may be right that some people have not ever been Geocaching, but they seam to all about it.
My GPS is made just for Geocaching and works good and my favorite finds are in the mountains, the beach and the desert. I use my netbook laptop to get me to areas that I have not been to, I have the caches downloaded to it from the Geocache.com site, Im a member their.
I have found caches from Oregon to Colorado
J herb

camperpaul
Explorer
Explorer
It seems to me that most of the people responding here have never been Geo-Caching.

To find a cache, you enter the latitude and longitude in degrees minutes and seconds (accurate to 0.01 seconds) and follow your GPS to the cache.

Up to date road maps are useless when the cache is two or three miles from the nearest road (those are the easy ones for beginners).

One of my most memorable finds was in the middle of an open field; when I reached the lat/long coordinates the published altitude of the cache was 35 feet above the elevation (MSL) shown on my eTrex.

You may have guessed it; I had to climb the one tree in the middle of that field.

Hit "Ctrl+A" to see how I found that cache.
Paul
Extra Class Ham Radio operator - K9ERG (since 1956)
Retired Electronics Engineer and Antenna Designer
Was a campground host at IBSP (2006-2010) - now retired.
Single - Full-timer
2005 Four Winds 29Q
2011 2500HD 6.0L GMC Denali (Gasser)

tatest
Explorer II
Explorer II
I would put color in the "nice to have but not essential" category, but it is unlikely that I would buy a grayscale GPS because by the time you get to that price level the unit is missing other "must have" capabilities. That's just how the price/feature set scale works.

What is essential for extended outdoor use is a transreflective display, so that you are not trying to overwhelm sunlight with battery-hungry backlighting. Most true outdoor GPS units feature this display type, while many multipurpose or portable automotive units rely on backlighting.

Having looked at the current crop of Garmins that step up from where my GPSMap 60C was when I bought it. I don't care much for features and pricing, nor map pricing, so if I had to replace the GPSMap 60C, I would likely buy DeLorme's Earthmate PN whatever model is current. I like DeLorme's maps, and the other displayable data, and capabilities are very close to what I'm accustomed to using.

A big difference between using a good outdoor GPS, and the GPS in a phone or portable auto navigation device, is that the outdoor GPS uses as many satellites as are available, evaluating them statistically and telling you how well it is doing, while the phone or auto GPS will use the minimum number required for a fix, then put you at the nearest place it expects you to be (where the map data has placed a road, e.g.) and tell you lies about accuracy. It doesn't have fixes to enough birds to estimate error in your location, which changes constantly over seconds but averages out better over minutes and hours. Geocaching often requires the better understanding of uncertainty in the whole GPS system.

DeLorme PN-60 is current, at $300 it is a bargain compared to GPSMap 62st (for removable storage and included topo maps) at 50% more. Closer to your price range I recommend Etrex 20 which improves on capabilities of my 10 year old GPSMap 60c for about half the price. Can't recommend Etrex 10, not because monochrome, but because it lacks removable storage, meaning you would have to load map data piecemeal. 100K Topo maps for Etrex cost $99 putting total into DeLorme PN price range, larger scale maps, 24K or better, are $99 to $129 per regional set for the U.S. Over the years, I've paid Garmin a lot more for maps than for hardware, but a lot of that has been for outside the U.S. where royalties are higher.

No matter what people claim (6 inches ?) the accuracy for an instantaneous GPS fix on the best of receivers is <15 meters GPS only, <2 meters augmented by WAAS for 95% confidence. Many vendor quote much smaller numbers using 50% confidence, flip a coin, is it right or not? This gets narrowed down statistically by occupying a site longer, and improved by differential GPS where two receivers linked together are reading the same birds at the same time. One is on a known location, one on location to be measured, and GPS is measuring the vector between, which averaged out over hours or days, can be confidently measure to millimeter scale.

Most caches are hidden in places that become obvious at the 2-15 meter range. But not always as obvious as the clue box on Amazing Race.
Tom Test
Itasca Spirit 29B

Romer1
Explorer
Explorer
WoodGlue wrote:
Wow, thanks everyone for your input!

I am going to be partial to a dedicated GPS unit as I am in the truck (I use a TomTom VIA 1605 for RV's) Plus I do plan on eventually geocaching where there is no cell service available.

So, paperless is the way to go...

Is a color display necessary or not (just a nice thing to have?)

WoodGlue


Also look at the DeLorme PN-40
Merrill (KC9NPT)
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J_herb
Explorer
Explorer
I have a netbook laptop with Streets & trips with GPS on it and can put caches on it and this is good to use in areas that you may not know very well. When I get close to the cache area I park than have the hand held GPS take me right to the cache. The map on my laptop covers a good size area and shows several cache hides just an other tool or fun toy.
J herb

camperpaul
Explorer
Explorer
RicJones wrote:
Another vote for the Etrex.


My $50 (close-out sale) eTrex can lock on to as many as twelve satellites at the same time. The accuracy is +/- 6 inches (15 cm) when locked on to only ten.
Paul
Extra Class Ham Radio operator - K9ERG (since 1956)
Retired Electronics Engineer and Antenna Designer
Was a campground host at IBSP (2006-2010) - now retired.
Single - Full-timer
2005 Four Winds 29Q
2011 2500HD 6.0L GMC Denali (Gasser)