Best Tow Vehicle (that I can afford)?

[zedas_lapedas]

Hello Everyone,

We are brand new to RVing and need some advice. We are planning to get a small travel trailer to haul to dog shows. While I understand that diesels are best for towing, we really can't afford the added cost of a diesel at this time.

I was thinking about getting a regular truck (yes, a gasser, LOL) but then I realized, I won't have any place to haul the dogs if I do that. I need room for two or three large sized kennels inside the tow vehicle. Is there anything that would fit the bill? I was looking at the Ford Expedition but have read a lot of the concerns about using those as a tow vehicle.

For what it's worth, I am looking into a smallish trailer, which should run about 5200 GVW. In fact, this is the trailer I have my eye on: Used 2010 Keystone RV Bullet 180FBS.

Any input would be much appreciated.

Thank you,

Carrie

[Fizz]

Basically a 3/4 ton will meet all your requirements. No need for diesel.

[KD4UPL]

2500 or 2550 van, 1500 or 2500 Suburban,or possibly a Tahoe if it's a newer one with the 6 speed automatic.

[ugh]

I forgot to add. If you are taking out a loan, RV can go up to 20 years for loan term and you can write off interest if claim as secon home. Something you can't do with truck.

[ugh]

Have you thought about class C? You can pickup a nice used one under 26 feet cheaper than a new gasser truck. Class c usually have a generator to run roof AC too keep the dogs cool while you are shopping or whatever.

[rockhillmanor]

I show dogs too and started out with a small TT also, to eliminate the costs of motels and the schlepping, packing up, back and forth each night.

If you have not bought anything yet all I can say was that using the TT was a real pain. First the dogs have to ride in your tow vehicle. When you get on site you have to unhook and set up. There are no pull thru parking sites at dog shows! :W

THEN you have to schelp the dogs, crates, equipment back to the TT. THEN reverse the whole process when it's time to leave.

Also While you are on the road traveling, stopping to eat etc won't be a happening with the TT cause you can't leave the dogs locked up inside your tow vehicle. With the MH you can. Don't know how often you show but all it took was 3 back to back weekends to make me realize using a TT sucked! :B

I sold the TT and picked up a real nice used MH. WHAT A DIFF! For you and the dogs. Just saying been there did that and IMHO a small inexpensive used MH is the only way to go.

BTW: If you show confirmation and/or obedience? Pulling onto the show site with your dogs in the 'back' of a pick-up truck is not going to be in your best interest. :W

[zedas_lapedas]

Thank you, Alabama Jim. That's good to know. 🙂

Carrie

[zedas_lapedas]

Hi Tom,

Thanks for the very informative post. I thought about hauling the dogs in the back of the truck. The husky could probably take it but the whippet would practically freeze to death. They are both used to a controlled indoor climate, so I guess that idea is out. On that note, I really like the idea of a large passenger van. It makes a lot of sense. I'm going to start my search and will surely be back with plenty of questions before I take my final leap. I appreciate your fast response.

Carrie

[tatest]

Full size vans work. They are less expensive used than pickups, particularly passenger vans coming off short leases or out of the rental fleet. Early 2014 I found a 2013 E-350 12 passenger with 19,000 miles for $21,000. E-350 extended (15 passenger) were selling about $1000 higher. Chevy Expess 3500 12 and 15 passenger running about $800 more tha equivalent Ford.

Regular length "1-ton" passenger vans usually have capacity to carry 3000 pounds passenger and/or cargo, depending on the GVWR (assorted ratings optional for tax purposes), extended vans about 300 pounds less.

Express 3500 passenger van ex-rental will usually have the 6.0 V-8 with a towing capacity of 10,000 pounds when empty, about 7000 fully loaded. E-350 passenger ex-rental will have the 5.4 V-8 with 13,000 GCWR for 6500-6700 towing capacity empty, about 3500 fully loaded. These vans hardly ever get fully loaded, that would be 12 250 pound passengers in the regular van, 15 200 pound passengers in the extended.

Cargo vans will be cheaper new, and have about 800 pound more carrying capacity or tow capacity foe same ratings, because that's about what the seats, trim, rear air conditioning and other passenger comforts add to the empty weight of the van. Cargo vans also often get bought with smaller engines, which can reduce towing capacity. They are harder to find low mileage used because commercial leases are more like 3-5 years and customers who buy the vans run them until fully depreciated or they wear out, which can be 200,000 to 300,000 miles or more. (That also happens to passenger vans bought for hotel shuttle or taxi service, running sometimes to 500,000 miles).

I suggest passenger van because carrying dogs, you want the big airconditioner cooling the rear of the van, and the insulation, heat and sound, of the interior trim. You can pull out as many seats as you want for the right mix of cargo and passenger capacity. I pulled the 4th row seat from my regular length 12-passenger, so seating for eight and about 120 cu ft cargo space. I can pull another row to have seating for five and about 180 cu ft.

But why not a truck. One of my RVing buddies raised bird dogs for competition and show, always carried his kennels in the back of a pickup, but these dogs are also kenneled outdoors year round. Maybe if your dogs live indoors, you might want to carry them climate-controlled.

[Alabama_Jim]

My Ford 150 with eco boost works well with my 24ft TT.