Sep-08-2017 05:37 PM
Sep-17-2017 05:53 PM
JC2 wrote:ken56 wrote:
Walkdog, you seem to be a bit over confident on what your Titan will handle. Oldbiscuit is spot on with what he posted for you. You can't believe the advertising and what salesmen say about what any tow vehicle can tow. Sure, it may well be able to pull it, but you will soon tire of fighting an oversized trailer to keep on the road, a tail wagging the dog situation. Being new in the RVing game with plenty of time to get to understand weights and towing issues keep reading on the subject.
Also go to the work camping forums and see what is out there.....litterally tons of things to do to stay occupied and get free or reduced rate sites. I retired at 52 although not from public service and I have enjoyed every minute of my freedom and have not looked back. From the day you retire it will all be in your hands to do or not do what ever you desire. Good luck.
I also agree with Oldbiscuit's analysis of the op's trucks capability to safely tow the (2) rvs shown. Too often, salesman and manufactures submit figures which are overly optimistic for their products when in real life, these types of matchups can be/are dangerous to the driver of such and to those around them. They are in the business to sell and will sometimes push the rules to the limit. The folks on this/other forums get paid "nothing" and just want to help. Listen, learn, and study the information given to you by those that have been there and done that before you make a decision that could be costly. Your not the first and will not be the last person on this and other forums who find that what they are trying to matchup is simply not safe or practical. I personally have seen several folks who where given the correct info from experienced folks for a tow vehicle/rv matchup and then those sames ones went with the salesman recommendation. Example: One guy bought a 40+ ft Kodiak 5ver and said the salesman told him it was ok to pull with a "shortbed" pu with a diesel motor. Several months later he got in a situation running 65mph and found out that the truck and 5ver were not a good match. In closing, go across (very windy)I-80 in Nebraska while pulling a rv with a borderline truck matchup and see ahow you feel afterwards.
Sep-17-2017 05:50 PM
Sep-09-2017 11:57 AM
Grit dog wrote:
Walkdog, looking at the 2 5vers you proposed, that is exactly what your truck is made for. And really nice lookin trailers to boot.
The new XD diesels are pretty sweet. Half ton guys bag on them because the XD will out tow the best Mac daddy Ecoboost super duper towing package truck out there.
Diesel guys bag on them because they realize that this truck has more power than what they used to brag about and a Little tune would run with their $70000 Cummins dually. And the self proclaimed weight cops liken it to a 6cyl 1993 F150, "because it's only a half ton."
Sounds like you're planning to have a blast. Good luck........
Sep-09-2017 08:04 AM
Sep-09-2017 07:41 AM
Sep-09-2017 07:16 AM
ken56 wrote:
Walkdog, you seem to be a bit over confident on what your Titan will handle. Oldbiscuit is spot on with what he posted for you. You can't believe the advertising and what salesmen say about what any tow vehicle can tow. Sure, it may well be able to pull it, but you will soon tire of fighting an oversized trailer to keep on the road, a tail wagging the dog situation. Being new in the RVing game with plenty of time to get to understand weights and towing issues keep reading on the subject.
Also go to the work camping forums and see what is out there.....litterally tons of things to do to stay occupied and get free or reduced rate sites. I retired at 52 although not from public service and I have enjoyed every minute of my freedom and have not looked back. From the day you retire it will all be in your hands to do or not do what ever you desire. Good luck.
Sep-09-2017 05:18 AM
Sep-09-2017 04:19 AM
Sep-09-2017 01:54 AM
Sep-08-2017 08:56 PM
Sep-08-2017 08:43 PM
Sep-08-2017 08:38 PM
Old-Biscuit wrote:
Time for a little reality check........
2017 Nissan Titan XD Diesel
Published info shows 'Towing capacity: 11,660 to 11,930 lbs
YET info shows 'Payload: 1,612 to 1,699 lbs
AND Gross vehicle weight rating: 8,800 to 8,990 lbs
Payload is the total amount of weight that can be added to truck.....that would be everything in cab, stuff in bags, stuff in seat/door pockets, under the seats, in the bed of truck, the weight hitch AND the WET pin weight of 5th wheel (or tongue weight of a TT)
Both of those Grand Designs show DRY pin weights...not wet pin weight of loaded up Full Time packed/camp ready trailers
The 230RL..dry weight is listed as AVG weight of 1195#---wet pin will be closer to 1800# or more
The 2800BH...dry weight is listed as AVG weight of 575#...wet tongue weight will be closer to 900# or more
With a payload of only 1650# the 5vr model 230RL is too heavy
But the TT model 2800BH might be doable (1650-900 = 750 minus 100 for hitch.....650# left for STUFF in truck)
Course you will probably be at/over trucks GVWR but real concern would be trucks rear axle rating and if at/over it (or trucks tire max load ratings)
With your 2017 Nissan Titan XD Diesel you would be better off forgetting about 5th wheels as the wet pin weights will et up too mch payload and shop for TTs in the 7500 GVWR range.
Towing overloaded is not fun nor safe.
Check your door jamb for your trucks 'cargo carrying capacity' (payload) on tire load Data sticker
Remember published numbers are DRY weights....so look at GVWR and use 12% as bases for wet tongue weight (20% for 5vr wet pin)
Best of luck in your research.
Sep-08-2017 08:35 PM
Sep-08-2017 08:27 PM
Old-Biscuit wrote:
Time for a little reality check........
2017 Nissan Titan XD Diesel
Published info shows 'Towing capacity: 11,660 to 11,930 lbs
YET info shows 'Payload: 1,612 to 1,699 lbs
AND Gross vehicle weight rating: 8,800 to 8,990 lbs
Payload is the total amount of weight that can be added to truck.....that would be everything in cab, stuff in bags, stuff in seat/door pockets, under the seats, in the bed of truck, the weight hitch AND the WET pin weight of 5th wheel (or tongue weight of a TT)
Both of those Grand Designs show DRY pin weights...not wet pin weight of loaded up Full Time packed/camp ready trailers
The 230RL..dry weight is listed as AVG weight of 1195#---wet pin will be closer to 1800# or more
The 2800BH...dry weight is listed as AVG weight of 575#...wet tongue weight will be closer to 900# or more
With a payload of only 1650# the 5vr model 230RL is too heavy
But the TT model 2800BH might be doable (1650-900 = 750 minus 100 for hitch.....650# left for STUFF in truck)
Course you will probably be at/over trucks GVWR but real concern would be trucks rear axle rating and if at/over it (or trucks tire max load ratings)
With your 2017 Nissan Titan XD Diesel you would be better off forgetting about 5th wheels as the wet pin weights will et up too mch payload and shop for TTs in the 7500 GVWR range.
Towing overloaded is not fun nor safe.
Check your door jamb for your trucks 'cargo carrying capacity' (payload) on tire load Data sticker
Remember published numbers are DRY weights....so look at GVWR and use 12% as bases for wet tongue weight (20% for 5vr wet pin)
Best of luck in your research.
Sep-08-2017 08:12 PM