klutchdust wrote:
I agree with your statement. I wonโt be hauling bikes. There is a link that you can drop photos then copy the link and post it on a thread. Not being at home I canโt send it to you, at the race in Vegas this weekend. Working off my phone ??. In the past your suggestions helped me a lot, keep up the good stuff hadnโt seen you posting in awhile .
Klutchdust
If you're addressing me, I appreciate the nice comments. Yep, I know about a site or two that you can store photos on to be able to link on here. I do have at least one of those photo hosting sites. I think it's calle "Imagur" or something like that. I'll dig around and find it. I do have some stored on it. On IRV2, and almost all other forums I belong to, it's just an easier process to link photos. No biggie.
Scott
Tom/Barb wrote:
Lots of folks don't like cutting into a brand new wire harness.
It is much better, safer, easier to install a completely independent tow light system.
It's only "better and safer" if you don't know what you're doing. There's probably thousands and thousands that have utilized the factory tail light bulbs as toad lights. As I stated earlier, it's seriously easy to do, with Jeeps that are not of the really late years, like around '14-'15 and up. The "JLs" are even more different than the later JKs. I wouldn't even think about tying into the JL lighting system. Even Jeep is having a hard time developing a harness for the new JLs.
But, for the early JKs, TJs, YJs and even the CJs (which are really not flat towable without precautions), I know many, many folks that never even thought twice about tying into the factory harness. Also, as stated earlier, I have yet to see any Jeep that's had this style of wiring done to it's tail lights, go up in flames. Again, it's all up to your skill level. If one doesn't trust their own work, then walk away from it. Pretty simple.
Scott
My idea of the thin, vertical LED stop/turn/tail lights fastened to the hard top is just that right now, not cemented in stone, or plastic YET! But, as stated, when the bikes are on the back, any lights that are NOT HIGH are almost completely blocked to following drivers. When the Jeep's being towed, the bikes are on the back, every time. So, I'd rather develop something like my idea than go unsafe.
What each person does for lighting, is of course up to them. I'll definitely post pics (although it's a pain in the a... on RV.net as opposed to other forums).
Scott
What each person does for lighting, is of course up to them. I'll definitely post pics (although it's a pain in the a... on RV.net as opposed to other forums).
Scott
There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with tying into the factory wiring for using jeeps tail lights as toad lights, UNLESS, it's the newer model JKs and JLs. Both have vastly different wiring than the previous models and, the '18 and newer JLs, have LED tail lights. They also have side mounted range finders in the tail lights for blind spot recognition.
Soooooo, tying into those models tail lights by the old fashion way with diodes IS OUT! I've done the "old fashion" way of tying into the tail lights on oh, maybe 30 or 40 Jeeps and not one of them has ever gone up in flames because I did it that way. This is one of those things that, if your skill level is up to par, you'll have ZERO issues doing it that way. If you're not sure what you're doing, then either add sockets and bulbs or, leave it to a pro.
The JKs, from '07 (first year for the JK) through oh, about maybe '12, is fine wiring them with simple diodes. From about the '14s up, you're better off using the Hopkins model of wiring harness. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaay cheaper than the Mopar version and WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY simpler to install.
If you're blowing diodes in ANY FORM of regularity, then somethings not wired right. I've had simple Radio Shack diodes in one of our toads, an '11 GMC Sierra 1500 4x4 Extended Cab now ever since 2011 and guess what, THEY'RE THE SAME DIODES I installed way back then and, the truck's got probably around 20,000 miles of towing on its clock. Hasn't burned up yet. And those diodes cost me a whole whopping $3.50 for a four-pack at Radio Shack.
Now, on our other toad, the '15 JKUR, I'm using the Hopkins unit and like stated, it was cheap, about $45 if I recall and it's been in there for 2+ years. But, I'm thinking of changing my thought pattern here. We haul two bicycles on the back of the Jeep and, for the most part, those bikes pretty much cover up the Jeeps tail lights. NOT GOOD! So, I'm thinking of going to plan B.
And that is to mount some really nice, THIN, vertical LED stop/turn/tail lights right to the vertical pillars of the rear of the hard top. If done correctly and with a bit of finesse, It's gonna look and function flawless. That will get the lighting up higher for way better viewing from folks following us when we're towing and carrying the bikes.
Then there would be no need for the Hopkins unit after that.
Scott
Soooooo, tying into those models tail lights by the old fashion way with diodes IS OUT! I've done the "old fashion" way of tying into the tail lights on oh, maybe 30 or 40 Jeeps and not one of them has ever gone up in flames because I did it that way. This is one of those things that, if your skill level is up to par, you'll have ZERO issues doing it that way. If you're not sure what you're doing, then either add sockets and bulbs or, leave it to a pro.
The JKs, from '07 (first year for the JK) through oh, about maybe '12, is fine wiring them with simple diodes. From about the '14s up, you're better off using the Hopkins model of wiring harness. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaay cheaper than the Mopar version and WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY simpler to install.
If you're blowing diodes in ANY FORM of regularity, then somethings not wired right. I've had simple Radio Shack diodes in one of our toads, an '11 GMC Sierra 1500 4x4 Extended Cab now ever since 2011 and guess what, THEY'RE THE SAME DIODES I installed way back then and, the truck's got probably around 20,000 miles of towing on its clock. Hasn't burned up yet. And those diodes cost me a whole whopping $3.50 for a four-pack at Radio Shack.
Now, on our other toad, the '15 JKUR, I'm using the Hopkins unit and like stated, it was cheap, about $45 if I recall and it's been in there for 2+ years. But, I'm thinking of changing my thought pattern here. We haul two bicycles on the back of the Jeep and, for the most part, those bikes pretty much cover up the Jeeps tail lights. NOT GOOD! So, I'm thinking of going to plan B.
And that is to mount some really nice, THIN, vertical LED stop/turn/tail lights right to the vertical pillars of the rear of the hard top. If done correctly and with a bit of finesse, It's gonna look and function flawless. That will get the lighting up higher for way better viewing from folks following us when we're towing and carrying the bikes.
Then there would be no need for the Hopkins unit after that.
Scott
