Another Tire Blowout

[vladio]

I bought Jayco Jay Feather hybrid new in 2014. It had 4 Towmax ST185/80R13 tires from the factory. Since owning the camper I've blown out 3 tires. Took the camper out for the first time this year last week and ended up on I81 between York and Harrisburg during rush-hour. The front passenger tire blew and took the plastic skirt with it. I've replaced each blown tire with Goodyear Marathon's so the rear axle has two new GY's and now I'm going to replace the blown tire from last week and the one remaining Towmax but I'm unsure what to put on it. I've not had probs with the Marathon's but have read nothing good about these tires. I'm just exhausted with being along the road with cars wizzing by - the camper before this Jayco was a pop-up that I had 2 blowout on it - and want to good tire, would hate to have to take off the two new Marathon's.

Anyone have experience with some good tires in the st185/80r13 size? I did search on here and go through a bunch of threads but I'm looking for some new info on newer tires - some of the threads were old and the tires mentioned are no longer in production.

Thanks in advance! From my research, this is a big problem. These Chinese tires aren't holding up.

[Ralph_Cramden]

time2roll wrote:

vladio wrote:
I checked the pressure last week an hour before it blew, it was right on 50.

'blew' is a very generic term. Could have been a road hazard that reduced pressure until the tire over heated and let go. Then the tire is shredded beyond recognition so the cause is not found.

Couple weeks ago I picked up a screw. I was lucky to notice a bit of tire bulge at a fuel stop. Pressure was down from 65 to 35 in just a few hours. Another couple hours and the whole tire could have 'blew' with no fault of the tire.

And yes I have had a tread come off and another with the tread separating ready to come off. Both still holding full pressure and obvious poor quality tire.

Time2......you know how it goes by now on these boards.....its always the tires fault. Never is it low pressure for whatever reason, overspeed, overload, a curb clip, or constant pull overs on debris filled shoulders of the road.

Going by these RV board tire threads, and knowing that the vast majority of towable RVs have Chinese ST tires OEM, I can't figure out why I don't see 200 people or more pulled over with "blowouts" every Friday and Sunday all summer on a 10 mile section of road here. It feeds 2 state parks and half a dozen private parks from a PA turnpike exit.

[Learjet]

All I could afford wrote:
Any time a tire I was in the process of balancing took that much weight, I would first let the air out, rotate the tires 180 degrees on the rim and try again. I would then see if the weights position followed the tire position or the rIm position. I’ve seen more than a few rims with rather heavy spots.
Another possibility is that the assembly was not perfectly seated on the machine at the time of spin balance.

This ^^^^^^

[All_I_could_aff]

Any time a tire I was in the process of balancing took that much weight, I would first let the air out, rotate the tires 180 degrees on the rim and try again. I would then see if the weights position followed the tire position or the rIm position. I’ve seen more than a few rims with rather heavy spots.
Another possibility is that the assembly was not perfectly seated on the machine at the time of spin balance.

[trailrider]

I will just add to this thread about my Goodyear Endurance tires I just purchased. Two of them took average weight to balance. One took no weights to balance and this one took a BUNCH of weight to balance. I'm not too sure I am sold on the "Made In America" moniker equals a better tire

IMG_20180602_095035296 by trailrider383, on Flickr

[72cougarxr7]

I've had good luck with Loadstar trailer tires, made by Kenda.
I have been getting them from recstuff.com, good prices.
Looks like The Loadstar K550 bias ply, load range D does for $51.00
K550
And the Loadstar Karrier radial in a load range D is $53.00
Karrier radial
I have the K550's on my smaller travel trailer and going on their 4th season with no issues.

[SoundGuy]

time2roll wrote:
Unfortunately Endurance is not available in 13".
The OP would need to check clearance and get new 14" wheels.

Which is what I suggested back on Page 1 of this discussion, as I'm convinced the 14" LR D Goodyear Endurance is a demonstrably better tire than the 13" Carlise HD, regardless of whether they may be LR C or even LR D.

[time2roll]

Unfortunately Endurance is not available in 13".
The OP would need to check clearance and get new 14" wheels.

[SoundGuy]

Crabbypatty wrote:
Just my opinion, but I would change out the fronts to be Marathon as well. Same set all around.

Any Marathon one could buy would be old "new" stock as it's been out of production for over a year now. I'd replace all tires with the new Goodyear Endurance.

[SoundGuy]

vladio wrote:
How are Carlisle HD load D's? These seem to be everywhere when I was calling around.

When one of my stock LR C China bombs split last year I compared a Carlisle HD to a Goodyear Endurance, both LR D ST205/75 R14 ... when bearing my weight down on the unmounted Carlisle it collapsed noticeably while the Endurance barely deflected at all. The Carlisle is manufactured in China, the Endurance in the US where labour costs are much higher, explaining why the former is much less costly than the premium priced Endurance. I chose the Endurance and am quite pleased at how much better the trailer now tows than it did with the original set of China bombs. :B

[Crabbypatty]

I had my other TT for 10 years. It came with Marathons and I installed two more sets, due to age and mileage. Ive never ha a blow out. I check the tires air pressure before the trip and during the trip. My new to us much heavier TT came with Load star tires. Typically I see these on tractor Trailer rigs. They were fine but more than 8 years old, so I replaced them with Good Year Endurance tires last year. yes they are ST's not LT's but a took a 500 mile round trip last year and they ran quiet and cool. We just got back from 1500 miles same thing. I don know how your loaded, or how you tow. But if you go fast and drive as if not towing that can stress the tires. Your axles could be ut of alignment do you have uneven wear? Just my opinion, but I would change out the fronts to be Marathon as well. Same set all around.

[time2roll]

vladio wrote:
How are Carlisle HD load D's? These seem to be everywhere when I was calling around.

They seem to have a good following and are speed rated 81 mph.
I would trust them more than most others.

[73guna]

Wish I needed tires, simple tire has the Goodyear Endurance for cheap right now.
Free shipping to boot!

https://simpletire.com/goodyear-225-75r15-724857519-tires

[vladio]

How are Carlisle HD load D's? These seem to be everywhere when I was calling around.

[Dusty_R]

I prefer to use a radiant thermometer rather than a tire gauge. I once got my tandem axel flat bed trailer out, and before I loaded it I used my tire gauge to check the tires, they were all OK.
Maybe 3 hours had pasted before we were all loaded up and ready to go.
We drove about 8 miles and then stopped at a grocery store, and while my wife was picking up a couple of things, I check the trailer tires again. We had a nearly flat tire. Apparently the valve stem valve stuck when I checked the tire with the tire gauge and leaked.

[time2roll]

vladio wrote:
I checked the pressure last week an hour before it blew, it was right on 50.

'blew' is a very generic term. Could have been a road hazard that reduced pressure until the tire over heated and let go. Then the tire is shredded beyond recognition so the cause is not found.

Couple weeks ago I picked up a screw. I was lucky to notice a bit of tire bulge at a fuel stop. Pressure was down from 65 to 35 in just a few hours. Another couple hours and the whole tire could have 'blew' with no fault of the tire.

And yes I have had a tread come off and another with the tread separating ready to come off. Both still holding full pressure and obvious poor quality tire.