Did Honda just come out with a new Generator ?

[stevekk]

My camping neighbor told me Honda just came out with a NEW 3500 watt and
about 70 pounds weight and low noise.
I googled the net, but no luck any new Gens from Honda.
Anybody heard of such a Generator?
I am looking for a REAL Quiet Gen to run my AC.
Thanks

[NinerBikes]

pnichols wrote:

smkettner wrote:

I want just a 12v charger if it comes to a new model. Size weight and sound of a Honda 1000 with 50 amp 14.5 volt output. Maybe even a timer to shut down as desired.

I'd just like an inexpensive 30 amp power factor corrected stand-alone 12 volt charger to power via my Honda EX650. Right now I use the little Honda to simultaneously power the stock converter in parallel with a cheap and old Sears 2-10-50 charger set on it's 50 amp setting.

This combination will only pump around 12-15 amps into our coach batteries due to the terminal voltage on the batteries not winding up high enough. Even on it's 50 amp setting, the old Sears charger just cannot raise the batteries' terminal voltage high enough above the output voltage of the converter so that the batteries will draw more. Of course that is also a good thing ... because if the batteries tried to draw more amps from the two charging sources ... the Sears charger might run too hot and go into thermal shutdown or burn itself up.

P.S. I'm curious: What sound from a Honda 1000 would you like while it's putting out it's maximum power? I'd prefer it's 53 dB sound level at it's maximum power - not it's current 59dB sound level at maximum power.

What the EU1000i makes for power at full load, and noise, the EU2000i will do quite easily in Eco mode and loafing along. My MegaWatt 30 Amp PSU will put the grunt on the Eu1000i, when I first charge for 10 to 20 minutes. Run on the Eu2000i, it's bigger brother is not even phased noise wise with the same MegaWatt 30Amp PSU. 48#'s for the Eu2000i. Might be a little more fuel consumption with the bigger motor. But it's quiet where the Eu1000i is making grunting loaded sounds.

[JiminDenver]

There are a number of inverter generators nearly as loud, as loud or louder than my Champion open frame at 68 db.

[Donnoh]

MrWizard wrote:
"quite the athlete"

"Quiet as a mouse"

Pet peeve?

[MrWizard]

"quite the athlete"

"Quiet as a mouse"

[smokey_camping]

All company's are always upgrading or replacing models, the only model of late that is NEW to Honda is the 7000is which went from carb to fuel injection! I own the older 6500is and yes it is VERY quite. You can stand next to it running with a load and have a normal conversation. If you want a quite generator no matter the brand get an "Invertor" style any reputable company's inverter will be quite.

[pnichols]

smkettner wrote:

I want just a 12v charger if it comes to a new model. Size weight and sound of a Honda 1000 with 50 amp 14.5 volt output. Maybe even a timer to shut down as desired.

I'd just like an inexpensive 30 amp power factor corrected stand-alone 12 volt charger to power via my Honda EX650. Right now I use the little Honda to simultaneously power the stock converter in parallel with a cheap and old Sears 2-10-50 charger set on it's 50 amp setting.

This combination will only pump around 12-15 amps into our coach batteries due to the terminal voltage on the batteries not winding up high enough. Even on it's 50 amp setting, the old Sears charger just cannot raise the batteries' terminal voltage high enough above the output voltage of the converter so that the batteries will draw more. Of course that is also a good thing ... because if the batteries tried to draw more amps from the two charging sources ... the Sears charger might run too hot and go into thermal shutdown or burn itself up.

P.S. I'm curious: What sound from a Honda 1000 would you like while it's putting out it's maximum power? I'd prefer it's 53 dB sound level at it's maximum power - not it's current 59dB sound level at maximum power.

[NinerBikes]

smkettner wrote:
I want just a 12v charger if it comes to a new model. Size weight and sound of a Honda 1000 with 50 amp 14.5 volt output. Maybe even a timer to shut down as desired.

This, and if you can only get 40 or 45 amps instead of 50, and make it 15.3V - 13.6V or have minor Voltage adjustments, for different types of batteries and battery chemistries, so much the better.

Take into account elevation of 7 or 8000 feet for camping, and gas cut with 10% alcohol into what the motor can make HP wise. And a carburetor that won't clog brass jets on 10% gasahol.

[pnichols]

We're as usual getting a bit off topic ... but at least staying in the context of Honda and noise:

We used to carry one of these Hondas on the back of our Dodge 3/4 ton van camper. We converted the van into a camper (including upgrading to 60 gallons of fuel capacity) and made a custom rack for the Honda bike. We rode the Honda all over the Utah desert with just me on it, with the DW and myself on it, and once (along the original abandoned Golden Spike rail bed) with myself, the DW, and our dog on it. What a classic - louder than Honda generators, though:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO2In0s-xZM

[MEXICOWANDERER]

I remember my old E-1500 belt-driven was a real handfull. And I was 40.

[JiminDenver]

MEXICOWANDERER wrote:

• You shop online
• You read consumer Reports
• You chat in forums
• You sleep on it for weeks
• Finally you are convinced you have purchased the most amiable machine to offend the campground least

Then the brother-in-law of the guy camped next to you shows up...

This is what we felt like in a dry campground a few years back. No one would have noticed the difference of a few Db between this or that generator, each one became part of the group hum.

[pnichols]

road-runner wrote:
'd bet that they could be designed to be 53dB, and that hardly anybody would buy them because of the increased size, weight, and added cost. I just bought a 700 watt Earthquake ig800 generator, about the same power as the ex650, but a lot smaller and at 21 lbs, less than half the weight. So far, it runs well. Louder, yes, but it fits easily into my small storage compartment and doesn't wrench my back lifting it in an out like the ex650 would. Or compare the ex650 to the eu2000i: Approximately the same size and weight, but a bit more than double the power from the eu2000i. So for the ex650's lower noise you're approximately doubling the weight or halving the power. I don't mean this as a criticism. If I had the storage space and didn't have a problem handling the weight, I would also pick the ex650 over the Earthquake ig800 for the reduced noise. I suspect, however, that few others would be willing to prioritize that noise level over the size/weight and power differences.

An excellent perceptive post above, and ........ you've just nicely reinforced a point I've tried to make many times that it seems others usually don't grasp:

When wanting the power of a Honda EU2000i inverter generator in an RV, why not buy two Honda EU1000i generators, instead, and use them in parallel? That way you can lift a ~29 lb. generator (1000i) twice, instead of a ~46 lb. generator (2000i) once. The double ~29 lb. lift is probably easier on the body than the single ~46 lb. lift.

P.S. Talk about "heavy", I also have a Honda EX1000 generater that I do not take in the RV for two reasons, even though it puts out more watts than the EX650 - 1) it's a too loud, and 2) I don't want to lift it!:

http://www.tappedin.com/hop/html/litegen.htm

[MEXICOWANDERER]

• You shop online
• You read consumer Reports
• You chat in forums
• You sleep on it for weeks
• Finally you are convinced you have purchased the most amiable machine to offend the campground least

Then the brother-in-law of the guy camped next to you shows up...

[time2roll]

I want just a 12v charger if it comes to a new model. Size weight and sound of a Honda 1000 with 50 amp 14.5 volt output. Maybe even a timer to shut down as desired.

[road-runner]

pnichols wrote:

The above is why we continue to use an old obsolete Honda suitcase generator that never exceeds a 54dB noise level with any load we place on it. It never is louder than 54dB.

It's too bad that modern Honda small portable inverter generators can't be designed to remain around 53dB at maximum output.

I'd bet that they could be designed to be 53dB, and that hardly anybody would buy them because of the increased size, weight, and added cost. I just bought a 700 watt Earthquake ig800 generator, about the same power as the ex650, but a lot smaller and at 21 lbs, less than half the weight. So far, it runs well. Louder, yes, but it fits easily into my small storage compartment and doesn't wrench my back lifting it in an out like the ex650 would. Or compare the ex650 to the eu2000i: Approximately the same size and weight, but a bit more than double the power from the eu2000i. So for the ex650's lower noise you're approximately doubling the weight or halving the power. I don't mean this as a criticism. If I had the storage space and didn't have a problem handling the weight, I would also pick the ex650 over the Earthquake ig800 for the reduced noise. I suspect, however, that few others would be willing to prioritize that noise level over the size/weight and power differences.