energy saving cooking

[pianotuna]

Hi,

I hate burning propane--so I tried this today.

I put two eggs (in the shell) inside the four cup drip coffee pot.

I filled it with water, then poured the water into the reservoir.

Then I made coffee and waited 25 minutes.

End result was two nicely hard cooked eggs.

The coffee pot initially uses about 530 watts for seven minutes. Then it cycles once every three minutes for 13 seconds.

I know that 15 minutes was not enough time. I suspect I'll try 20 minutes next time to try to get a nicely soft boiled egg.

[pianotuna]

Hi,

It is a typical drip style coffee pot. I'll be sure to wash the eggs first.

The temperature needed to kill salmonella is 160 F. The coffee pot I use ranges between 170 and 190 F, and that is with water starting at 40 F (ground temperature). Since I use water at the ambient from a jug, the brew temperature will be closer to the 190 number.

I found these answers on the wobbly wide web.

[Almot]

If it doesn't boil - in that coffee maker - then I can see why this isn't going to work for many.

[down_home]

pianotuna wrote:
Hi,

I hate burning propane--so I tried this today.

I put two eggs (in the shell) inside the four cup drip coffee pot.

I filled it with water, then poured the water into the reservoir.

Then I made coffee and waited 25 minutes.

End result was two nicely hard cooked eggs.

The coffee pot initially uses about 530 watts for seven minutes. Then it cycles once every three minutes for 13 seconds.

I know that 15 minutes was not enough time. I suspect I'll try 20 minutes next time to try to get a nicely soft boiled egg.

A bit spend thrifty there. Daughter, in Red Rock sprayed Pam on a flat stone that had been sitting in the sun all morning.
It took about 10 minutes. Four if you wanted sunny side up. The eggs were on sale t the Commissary in Tucson. total cost about 12cents. 🙂

[Salvo]

Water isn't anywhere near boiling when brewing coffee. No coffee connoisseur will drink coffee that had been boiled.

[Almot]

If water is boiling - in coffee brewer - than the temperature is the same as in any other pot with boiling water.

[Salvo]

Don't know about cooking an egg in a coffee brewer. Sounds awful risky to me. Is coffee temperature hot enough to kill Salmonella and other bacteria (faecal contamination) that's often found on eggshells?

Sal

[Almot]

Nothing is free. It's just that some resources are being depleted faster than others, so they become expensive, plus there are places where you can't get a propane refill within hundreds miles. Most of South America and half the Mexico is like that. Plenty of places in rural Canada where propane refill is same pain. In shore cabin you can have a huge stationary tank, in RV you can't. This problem alone is worth seeking alternative solutions - but, as I wrote already, LP stove is not the most fuel-hungry appliance.

[2oldman]

pianotuna wrote:
Why would I burn propane when my solar system will give me "free" energy?

Yah, *most* of the time. 🙂

[pianotuna]

Hi 2oldman,

Why would I burn propane when my solar system will give me "free" energy?

Rained all day. Solar return has been between 1 and 2 amps, most of the day. Yesterday it was 14 amps at 3:00 p.m.

[Almot]

2oldman wrote:
What's the problem with burning propane?

None, other than environmental pollution. Considering how little the stove burns, compared to fridge and furnace - I would say no problems, if used outdoors. (Indoors it will add heat that you might not need, increase humidity and deplete the oxygen that you breathe).

[bananadanna]

2oldman wrote:
What's the problem with burning propane?

Not much really.

Propane burner typically transfers ~35% of the heat into the pot. Almost twice that for a mag unit.

IIRC, every propane molecule yields two water molecules when burned. Mostly a winter problem.

But propane (or extension cord mag unit) outdoors makes those moot questions.

[bananadanna]

pianotuna wrote:
Hi bannanadanna,

Can they be used with MSW or will that let out the magic blue smoke?

Sorry to tell you I have a psw inverter.

Anyone else out there with msw experience on a mag unit?

Piano,

Tell us the results if you risk the $65 or reach Sunpentown support!

Dan

[MEXICOWANDERER]

bananadanna wrote:
Immersion heating elements are pretty efficient for heating liquids.

We use a Sunpentown 1200w (ten levels) magnetic induction burner. It flips a mag field in any ferrous material ---the pan is hotter than the cooktop.

Approximately twice the energy is transferred to the utensil vs propane.

Great for hot weather, no propane water vapor, much safer in confined quarters.

WM has 1300w models for $65.


How do the induction cooktops work (or don't) with a modified sine wave inverter?

I guess folks from say Port Alberni Victoria find it hard to believe that using a live flame in an RV is not the smartest thing to do when it is hot and sweaty. Using A/C, one stupid stove burner seems to kill off most of the benefits of a roof air going full speed.

Similar to a small microwave in power requirements.

[mena661]

2oldman wrote:
What's the problem with burning propane?

I don't see a problem with it. I burn that stuff all the time. If I didn't, I wouldn't be able to cook or heat my house.