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Faulty black water sensor

Zenshin
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Explorer
The black water sensor on my 1998 pace arrow vision reads full even though the tank has just been emptied. Short of replacing the sensor is there anyway to know how full the tank is? Also, would it be very difficult to replace the sensor?
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DutchmenSport
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Explorer
As stated above, the sensors on the holding tanks very seldom work right. Maybe the first day after being shipped from the factory, but after that, it's anyone's guess.

Reason? Stuff sticks to the sensors giving a false reading.

The solution is really simple however. All you need to do is dump your tanks completely. Rinse them out by adding a full tank of water via the toilet and dump. This cleans out any excess stuff that did not get dumped out initially.

The next step can vary, and maybe do all of these procedures.

The simplest is, now add about 5 gallons of water to the black tank, a bit of dish washing Liquid to the tank. If you want it to smell better, add a cup of bleach, and take the camper for a 20 minute drive over bumpy and curvy roads with lots of stops and turns. This will slosh the contents of tank around, sloshing and cleaning the stuff off the sensors.

When you get home, or your next camp site, drain the tank. You don't want the bleach sitting in there long term. If yo don't use bleach, dish washing liquid won't hurt anything.

Now, if you can't drive, or even if you do, there is an alternative. Assuming your black tank does not have a black tank flusher attached to the trailer, get a toilet wand from any local RV shop or even WalMart. Attach it to a garden hose, shove it down the toilet, turn the water on, and spray the dickens out of the tank, letting it drain as you do. The high impact of the water hitting those sensors, and the inside of the tank, will pulverize anything left clinging to the sensors.

The sensors will work again correct (but only for a while). So the secret to keeping them working is to empty all the contents of your tank before hitting the road every time. Then add about 5 gallons to the tank with a bit of dish washing liquid and drive to your next destination. If you do this (without the bleach), not only will your tanks stay clean, you'll never have smells, and your sensors (should) work.

If your camper is stationary, then use the toilet wand on the garden hose after ever few dumps, or you notice the sensors not working correct again.

This is the least evasive, an in my opinion, the best way to keep the sensors working AND the tank clean.

If this does not work, then there is something wrong with the sensors. If that is the case, then consider switching or replacing the sensor system as suggested by the above posters. No need to spend money yet. Try it, see what happens.

garyemunson
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Explorer
For some time Winnebago has been using their version of the SeeLevel system. While it does not have the digital readout (only gives 1/4-1/2-3/4-full), it does have mass sensors mounted on the outside of the tank rather than the through the wall pins that get fouled by tank debris. Do the GEO method with a small bottle of dawn and calgon water softener. Fill your black tank 1/2 full of water and drive some curvy roads to slosh things around. With luck that will clean off the sensor and get your monitor working again. Best chance to keep it working is to never dump the black tank until it is almost full and be sure to dump 2 bowls of water after each "deposit" in the toilet. Lots of water is your friend. Makes for a more forceful dump that is more likely to carry stuff off the sensors.

Dutch_12078
Explorer II
Explorer II
X2 on the SeeLevel II tank monitor system. I much prefer the more accurate percentage readings over the typical "Empty, 1/3, 2/3, Full" setup. And the external sensors are easy to install with reasonable access to the tanks.
Dutch
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fitznj
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Explorer
Mine rarely work correctly either; What I do is turn the water pump off - then hold the toilet flap open and peer down to the tank with a flash light. You may need to keep air freshener handy ..
Gerry

Dusty_R
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Explorer
Check out SeeLevel Gauges. A different type of level sensors. I've put them on our last two mhs.

Dusty

ksg5000
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Explorer
Common problem usually the result of toilet paper debris getting caught on the sensor probes. Many just ignore the sensors and just look down into the toilet to judge how full it is. You can purchase a Flexible tank wand which can be used to clean the sensors. Visit Youtube there are plenty of vids that show how to clean the sensors. Some will replace/upgrade the OEM sensors with sensors that are less prone to getting crud on them - many don't think it's worth it.
Kevin

evanrem
Explorer II
Explorer II
they rarely are correct, stuff sticks on them an they don't read correctly. Look in the hole to see how full.