TomG2 wrote:
otrfun wrote:
I'll say it again, until such time as the engineers working for Honda's competitors address "performance and features", SPECIFICALLY: sound level, inrush, and price/reliability they will not gain market share on Honda.
Two couples each with around $1,000 to spend on a generator:
Wife says, "I need to use the hair dryer". He says, "Go outside, turn on the Honda, set the choke, and pull the rope. Don't forget the 30/20 amp adapter." She says, "Why is it so loud and why did my hair dryer stop?" He, "Because you were too stupid to turn off the converter and switch the refrigerator to gas before you tried your dryer. Now get back out there and do it all again. Remember, you have to turn off the Honda to reset it. Women!"
Second couple. She, "I need to use my hair dryer". He, "Fine, hit the start button on the remote". She says, "But what about inrush?". He, "You have been reading too many Internet forums. Now dry your hair. Women!"
Nearly twice the usable wattage, RV ready plug, quiet, remote start, but not red. I don't care what color it is. Color is not a feature to me worth paying for.
TomG2, you're missing my point entirely.
Ok, you're not a Honda fan, You think inrush current and the color red is a joke. You think Hondas are massively overpriced. No way you'd buy one. I get that. Not a problem. Did I get your gist? Oh yeah, and just for the record, I don't own a Honda---I own a Champion.
Not that we've got that out of the way, let me try to clarify my original point for you. You're trying to debate what is the "best" generator. That's not my point. My focus has been to opine on the "best" way for Honda's competitors to SELL MORE generators.
Regardless whether any given individual feels Honda inverter generators are any good, or whether they're worth their high price, the fact remains they've been selling at or near list price, and in very high numbers to a lot of consumers, for the last 10-15 years. As much as you may want to, you cannot argue with success. Consumers have used their hard-earned money to elect Honda inverter generators as their inverter generator of choice---whether we like it or not. I didn't buy one. I certainly get the impression you wouldn't buy one, TomG2. But, a lot of folks somewhere certainly did!
Many have said
'they don't like Hondas and could care less about the specs. My current inverter generator cost 1/3 the price of a Honda and does the job.' It's obvious from the literature handed out by every one of Honda's competitors they see Honda's inverter generators as the one to emulate or beat. Honda's competitors clearly advertise the one or two Honda specs they meet or beat and fail to mention ones they don't. It's an ongoing pattern that's hard not to notice. Clearly, Honda's competitors don't have an ace up their sleeve. They've had 10-15 years to play it---with no joy. Gotta wonder what we'd be seeing, performance and feature-wise, if Honda had never entered the inverter generator market. What would we be driving if Toyota and Honda had never entered the US car market?
For folks who may believe Honda has little bearing on what succeeds or doesn't succeed in the inverter generator marketplace---well, you're certainly entitled to your opinion, But, for those many, many consumers who believe otherwise . . . that emulating or even beating Honda, in every critical area---with no compromise, at a fraction of the price, is a win-win for every inverter generator consumer----it's a nice thought to entertain. FWIW, the only potential loser in this scenario might be Honda. I think they'd weather the storm just fine though. More than likely they'd just up the ante with a completely revised, version 2 of their EU2000i and EU3000iS, then bump their prices up into the stratosphere again--lol! Hopefully we wouldn't have to wait another 10, 15, or 20 years for the competition to catch up again
🙂 YMMV.